Monday, April 6, 2015

Church Crimes - 2: A Declining Faith



It has all boomeranged. From the fake outrage to fake agitations over Church attacks and the nun-rape in Bengal, Christian leaders and their media pimps today stand more exposed as hypocrites and liars. Even moderate MSM writers like Tavleen Singh and Swapan Dasgupta are now writing openly that there is an Anti-Modi Christian agenda which seeks to distract from and derail all reforms and policy-making. There are criminals in our TV news channels who too know this now but are too shy to acknowledge this Christian agenda as it would prejudice or jeopardise their paymasters. To add to all their stupidity a judge called Kurian Joseph made a big hue and cry over the SC holding a meeting of judges on Good Friday. Even that backfired because the moronic outrage by him made people show him that it has been done before. It has been done not only in India but across the world. When stupidity from leaders of a community reaches such levels you know that the noise is not without a motive. They are not only in fake outrage; it is possible they are being “useful idiots” for political interests from India and abroad.

There’s another thing I want to bring up. There are many ordinary citizens and distortionists in the media who like to peddle a myth – that America is a Christian nation. They often quote American Christian practices to compare with those in India. Firstly, America is a relatively young country with no history of religion or spirituality. India has a rich history of Hindu culture, Egypt has a civilizational history and so do some countries in Europe. But the US is hardly a country with great religious history. But it is true that Christians and Churches in the US have constantly attempted a global domination of religion and conversions. Here is what one of the founding fathers of the US and a former president had to say:


What Jefferson also said over 200 years ago is reflective of many Church denominations, their politics and practices. One surely can’t imagine Jesus wearing pointy hats and living in palaces like the Vatican. Jefferson was clear “In fact, Jefferson was so opposed to mysticism that he removed from his bible any account of the miracles that Jesus is alleged to have performed”. There is no US Christian nation “To Jefferson, liberty and democracy could only be maintained via the separation of church and state, even in public education”. He re-wrote the bible after removing all the miracles which is known as “The Jefferson Bible”. Thus the Constitution of the US allows freedom of religion as also the freedom to trash religion. It has nothing to do with any religion. Our Indian Constitution, on the other hand, seems to encourage religious fundamentalism (in a twisted way) by protecting it from being trashed. A classic case is that of Sanal Edamaruku who has been hounded out of India for questioning a miracle at a Cross in Mumbai. I don’t believe in stupid miracles – at best, inexplicable coincidences.

So what’s the problem? Why are these Christians in fake outrage since the last few months? Why are they in anti-Modi agenda? I estimate that their fake fears are partly propelled by a fear of their conversion-mafia grinding to a halt. There’s a reason for this as I keep saying – The decline of Christianity across world. That is not a generalised statement. It is borne out by facts and stats:

Every piece of social data suggests that those who favor faith and superstition over fact-based evidence will become the minority in this country by or before the end of this century. In fact, the number of Americans who do not believe in a deity doubled in the last decade of the previous century according to both the census of 2004 and the American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) of 2008, with religious non-belief in the U.S. rising from 8.2 percent in 1990 to 14.2 percent in 2001. In 2013, that number is now above 16 percent… If current trends continue, the crossing point, whereby atheists, agnostics, and “nones” equals the number of Christians in this country, will be in the year 2062. If that gives you reason to celebrate, consider this: by the year 2130, the percentage of Americans who identify themselves as Christian will equal a little more than 1 percent. To put that into perspective, today roughly 1 percent of the population is Muslim”.

That’s the same reason GharWapsi scares them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with GharWapsi. If there is freedom to convert to another religion then the same freedom exists to return to or convert to another religion. Why is there an agitation over this? Are Christians the only ones entitled to convert others, especially through fraudulent means and bribes? These have been discussed many times over. The last few months have demonstrated Christian intolerance of Indian society rather than Indian intolerance (read Hindu intolerance) as criminals in media like to portray it. They are now so frustrated with poor sales of Jesus, their stooges dress up like imposters who imitate Saffron Sadhus or they dress up Jesus like some Hindu saints:

These dramas and theatrics are done quite frequently in South India to fool illiterate tribals and poor people to lure them into Christianity through Christian churches which are modelled like Hindu temples. Why would you go so far if your religion is good and attractive? Someone mentioned on Twitter that the converter-salesmen approach people at bus and rail stations, parking plots and other public places like a smuggler approaches people to sell smuggled goods hidden under his jacket. Of course, the other crimes of the church like rapes, murders and Paedophilia are far too many to explain in a few posts. But some samples of what goes on in churches and nunneries in the name of God are simply shocking. Here are some clips from Outlook:

And the bad news keeps on coming. A Kerala church settled a molestation and torture case with a nun for 12 lakhs. They helped her exit the church with that settlement. They are they’re own judiciary and judge, no law applies to them. It is the same Kerala, with a sizeable population of Christian Priests and bosses, which has still not been to solve the 23 year old case of murder of Sister Abhaya. I guess most people know why Sister Abhaya was murdered and the twists and turns in that story read worse than a cheap movie thriller. From the past there have been over 60 criminal cases against Kerala priests. The charges include Murder, attempt to murder, rape, molestation, assault, abduction, theft, break-in, cheating, immoral trafficking…almost every offence under the Indian Penal Code. None of our TV channels ever report these crimes and these are usually buried in inner pages of small newspapers. Like I said outraging over such criminals would offend their paymasters.

Talk about bad timing. As if all the hypocrisy and lies of Christian leaders weren’t exposed enough comes a most damning book: God’s Bankers – A history of money and power at the Vatican. The author, Gerald Posner, narrates the story of Vatican’s lust for power and money and all the means they employed to accumulate it. And now the fortunes are in a decline. Starting with the murder of an Italian banker on the run, made to look a suicide with his body hanging into the Thames in London in 1982, Posner goes back into history of the Vatican’s greed for money. He explains the Vatican Bank was like an offshore bank of Italy and a safe haven for money laundering activities. Deals with many mafia characters and many unexplained deaths dot the book. This includes questionable investments in Italian insurance companies and helping many Nazi criminals escaping justice with the help of top Vatican leaders. Posner also touches upon the paedophile scandal that rocked the Vatican (it rocks many churches across the world). Here’s a telling image from the book:

The image isn’t very sharp here but it’s the image of golden wedding rings. The narration on the right reads: “The Vatican used gold as its chief hard asset. Since the Nazis looted the gold reserves of the countries they conquered, the church’s accumulation of the metal proved as morally problematic as did many of its business stakes. Here an American soldier holds wedding rings from holocaust victims. The Vatican later denied that it was the repository for the rings and gold coins from 28000 gypsies murdered in Croatia”.

God’s Bankers isn’t an easy read as it’s a long epic but it will not leave anyone in doubt about Church crimes. Posner establishes that the Vatican was less about religion and morals and more about money, greed and power. No wonder Christianity is declining in the West. Any organisation with similar operations in any country would most certainly be investigated and prosecuted for multiple crimes but the Vatican happens to be an independent state with the Pope as its boss. There is every reason many Churches in India too must be investigated after tales of torture, rape and other scandals. Christian leaders who often insult and frown upon other religions and cultures do have a lot to answer for. 


40 comments :

  1. Christians are a fifth column in India. Its time stupid Hindus both cultural and religious realize.

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  2. As usual a fantastic write up. Social Media is the only way all the lies of Crooks & Traitors in MSM can be exposed. So Mainos UPA brought 66A. Hope such a thing does not come in another form by Jai Italy who seems to be more powerful than the PM. Kudos to Shri Ravinar for exposing them again and again based on facts

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  3. http://communismbythebackdoor.tv/ this site will tell you more about vatican and pope.

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  4. Will never come to know these things through MSM in India.

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  5. it's time now to nail them and their............................ agenda

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  6. God bless you with good health, longlife, peace and immense success. I pray you also lay bare the inside workings and understandings amongst crooks like Mulayams, Mayas, Yadavs, Gowdas, Nitish Kumars, etc and the crook of crooks the Gandhis. I had read somewhere that Arjun Singh and Karunanidhi used to facilitate movement to Italy of artifacts and precious things via Delhi and Chennai airports bypassing customs clearance. There must be ppl who would be in the know of things. The corrupt Media offers immense scope to fill the void with real news News Paper & TV channel. Look forward to a barrage of exposures before the Bihar scenario sets in since the media with Yadavs, Mainos, Mamtas, Mayawatis, Kumar, it seems, have consipired and aspire to repeat Delhi by strategic voting preceded by church cries and orchestrated riots.

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  7. Absolutely right as always, as I read on SM, in India they get every Sunday to attend church as Xtians get maximum number of holidays. What if weekly off were to shift to another day? Can't imagine the outrage then😂

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  8. My Sincere Respect and I must admit that I am ignorant on many facts- "Jafferson Bible..." I love this facts based write up.I am getting so much to add to my learning.
    So much hard work goes to come up with solid informative writing.

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  9. Nice article Ravinar. The highlights being the documentation with proofs unlike the MSMs, saying our sources reveal or it is said or jack says john, kind of reporting

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  10. On the Matrubhumi Site in the above link on Sister Abhaya murder case, the CBI is supposed to file a reply today 6th April. Can somebody from Kerala keep a eye on latest development and share it on this site?

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  11. A very timely article indeed ! A few things I wanted to add.
    1. The focus seems to be Catholic Church due the fathers and JDs and their stupid statements and their predilection to be on TV , but the maximal damage is being caused by Evangelists; not one shows up on TV (except the IAS officer. South Korea is an example of how fast the evangelicals can cause massive demographic change.
    2. Just like the actual Xtian percentages in India is much higher than the census, the actual "practicing" Xtians in the West maybe much lower than thought (Once an Xtian stops attending church, it is over since it requires constant indoctrination to keep him from questioning their nonsensical doctrines)
    http://www.churchleaders.com/pastors/pastor-articles/139575-7-startling-facts-an-up-close-look-at-church-attendance-in-america.html
    http://blogs.christianpost.com/dear-ephesus/empty-churches-the-decline-of-cultural-christianity-in-the-west-17067/
    3. Christianity has converted the South Korean Cities into a cartoonish cityscape
    http://www.hancinema.net/blinded-by-the-light-seoul-s-neon-pollution-30664.html
    There is hope though. In South Korea itself the numbers of Xnity are actually falling now
    http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_opinion/148175.html
    http://www.koreabang.com/2013/stories/south-korean-christians-increasingly-disillusioned-with-church.html
    http://www.koreabang.com/2014/stories/poll-finds-only-20-of-koreans-trust-protestant-church.html
    The comment section in the last 2 links is particularly interesting
    So the Homo Sapiens species may still avoid extinction !!

    On a side note some interesting info I came across

    http://www.rjkoehler.com/2010/02/26/india-the-origin-of-korea/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R47_5OqtJAQ

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  12. You rightly pointed out that Christianity feels threatened by 'scientific' Hinduism. Yoga and meditation, which have been among the basic Hindu ethos for thousands of years since the Flood time saints Manu nd Bhrigu, have benifitted humans world wide and are taken seriously by all. It is quite disturbing that Hindus have forgotten the fully scientific concepts of Vedic Gods (mentioned in Sanskrit Scriptures) like Shiva, Vishnu, Goddess nd Ganesh, nd are exposed to only stories, faith and beliefs. Yoga nd Meditation are indeed worshipping of these spiritual Gods, and must be explained to Hindus all about the concepts and how they'll be benifitted by these Gods.

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  13. You are wrong if you think America is not a christian nation. Its very much so. You can't even get elected if you don't convert to christianity - re Bobby Jindal. Christian or western sounding names immediately open more doors, re- kal penn, frieda pinto. Their country comes to a standstill on Christmas. They are horribly misinformed about Hinduism and its festival. They constantly make fun of Hindus in their media. Its just that they have shunned some of the more extreme beliefs of catholics. Apart from that they are expert hypocrites. They'll make you apologise for crimes committed against you.

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  14. I watched the Posner interview on a channel Russia Today and later on youtube. Posner calls the Vatican as a "equal opportunities profiteer", talks of their very active connivance / collaboration with Mussolini, Third Reich, Italian Mafiosi, CIA, British Intelligence to further their self aggrandizement. Posner talks of a revenue model where one pays the Vatican an amount (I think he calls it "indulgence amount") and the Vatican will wipe out all the sins that the person committed. Brilliant and they call it the most pure religion.

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  15. Very well said and informative. Even common man knows now about the hypocrisy and exposure of these christian attacks.. Because they tried to milk it too much without having a Cow.. Ravinar , Please do a expose on Jai Italy also. ie Why is he occupying such a high status even after openly supporting traitors like NDTV and probably helping Gandhi family thugs in NH type cases. If you could throw some light on that, that would be really good. Jaitley is the Secular creature in BJP..

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  16. A place called Gunadala near Vijayawada where the entire Hill is bought by Christian Church and Mother Mary is being offered coconuts and flowers!! Such is the presence of Church in South India and their ways of luring are making phone calls to the poor and asking them to share their problems so that they can pray for them and later convert them.. One of the converted lady ran away from a Father who tried to rape her in Eluru!! This article proved many things about Christianity as we see in India.

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  17. Recently I traveled from tirupati to kanyakumari. While traveling in a night bus, I was looking outside the window at mid-night. To my horror after every 1Km or so I could see red neon light 'cross' on top of churches or houses. May be 'RED neon cross' glowing around 12am has some other hidden message. And the place around vivekananda rock in kanyakumari is literary filled with churches. I think there were more churches that hotels in kanyakumari. In andhra-tamil border rural people are burying their expired relatives in chtistian tradition in their cultivable land.

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  18. These churches in tamilnadu,kerala etc. Are made out from funds through AMERICAN CIA S JOSHUA PROJECT.......
    THESE ARE EVENGELIST AMERICAN AGENTS WOULD CARRY TRESSON AGAINST INDIA ...COLOR REVOLUTION AGAINST INDIA WEN NEED......
    THEY ARE CALLED TROJAN HORSES SETUPPED AND ARE FIFTH COLUMN ARMY OF AMERICA...........
    ALL MODI BAKTHS IF YOU ARE LOYAL TO BHARATH MATHA..........
    ASK YOUR MODI TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THESE CONVERSION MAFIA WHONARE LOOTING TRILLION DOLLAR WORTH THORIUM RESERVES........
    WHICH ARE SHIPPED TO AMERICA IN TONNES OF SANDS..........
    ASK YOUR MODI TO CUT CONNECTION WITH EUROPE AND AMERICAN BEGGAR PRESIDENT .....OBAMA........
    ASK YOUR MODI TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST "ANTI HINDHU NGOS, CHANNELS AND EDITORS " WHO ARE COMMITING TREASON AGAINST INDIA.........RATHER THAN SHAKING HANDS WITH THEM...........
    ASK MODI TO CUT CONNECTION WITH PDP........
    IF EVER SHYAMA PRASAD MUKHARJI EXISTED IN THIS WORLD HIS HEART WOLUD HAVE BLEED BY SEEING MODI COZIYING UP WITH PDP WHICH HAS TIES WITH PAKISTAN AND SPERATISTS.............
    IF MODI AND BJP DOES NOT ACTS FOR THE INTEREST OF INDIA AND HINDHUS..........DELHI WILL REPEAT EVERY WHERE........WHAT EVER SPEECH LET MODI GIVE........
    WE HINdhUS WILLL NEVER SUPPORT HIM IF HE HESITATES AND SHOOKS HAND WITH CRIMINALS WHO ARE DIE HARD AGAINST THIS NATION...........
    even though im stanch RSS SUPPORTER....I FEEL DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT MODI SPOKE DURING ELECTION AND WHAT HE IS DOING NOW......
    ACT AGAINST ANTI NATIONALISTS OR PERISH AND LOOSE THE WONDERFULL OPPUTUNITY THIS NATION HAS GIVEN TO YOU...BJP/MODI

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  19. Myghosthut,
    Mushrooming of Churches in Southern part of TN is purely because Right Wing Groups failed to educate Tribal and Poor about hidden agenda of Church. What Vivekanand Ashramites do in Kanykumari just gardening, flowering, cleaning Asrams that's it nothing sort of educating people of evil design of Churches are provided by this groups.

    Why I am saying this is because I worked in Kanykumari with a Wind Turbine Company for more than 2 years and I had friends from Christian community and they blame Rights for not coming out open and speak against Christianity. Even they say we daily see 100's of Church fathers/Pastors luring them with education, monetary supports but not so far not a single person from RSS,VHP nor Vivekanand Asrams coming forward and taking on Church activities. Now Nagercoil which is nearby town of Kanykumari once had 2nd Largest RSS cadres after Nagpur, but most of poulation of Nagercoil are Chirstinity.

    Our Right organisations are like Bollywood's Police which will reach to spot only after crime has already taken place.

    Even RSS Chief Sri. Mohan Bhagwatji spoke against Teresa when after she is dead when she was alive RSS never dared to question her actions.

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    1. Like Jefferson's bible, I would love to see a ,say APJ Abdul Kalam's quran.

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  20. Absolutely correct. These people are so active in Tamil Nadu and Kerala that it is almost spread across the state. These people target the poor and tribals as rightly said and are hell bent on converting people. These people while targetting middle class never back out and put in sustained harrassing of the peole and try to win over at any cost. Almost beside every prominent temple these evangelists either stay or put somme sign boards and even hunt for people to convert in the temple as well. The nun-father relation has been exactly brought out and there are so many settlements that take place. Even the police is in the knowhow insome cases and dont bother to act on the fathers and pastors. The cardinals, bishops and people like Kurien should first look at their back before crying hoarse on secularism. There is a small good beginning that Modi has yesterday opened hismouth and made an absolute bull's eyeremark FIVE STAR ACTIVISTS to which the moron Prashant is annoyed. Hope this momentum is sustained by Modi and hope he exposes these cowards and tear their mask!

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  21. Excellent post.

    May God give you, Ravinar, a healthy and long life to continue your good work of arousing our conscience.

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  22. If Rolling Stone Magazine of USA could be prosecuted for false rape report and defamation of fraternity, why not NDTV, MF and Burkha for greater crime of defaming whole community? Please read:
    "CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA. — A fraternity at the University of Virginia announced Monday that it will "pursue all available legal action" against Rolling Stone, saying a Columbia Journalism School review shows the magazine acted recklessly and defamed its members by publishing an article that falsely accused them of gang rape."

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    1. Definitely! we must approach courts against mis-information spread by Media. Regardless the outcome, a debate will start on this. We may not 5* activists, yet we can take PIL route.

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  23. Interesting developments on 7th April 2015.
    1. Five muslims suspected as terrorists were 'encountered' in Telangana.
    2. 20 poor tamil labor were killed in AP while smuggling Red Sandal.

    Now which case sickular MSM will pursue. Wrong guess!
    AP will be hounded for next few days. Simple logic. It is ruled by NDA.

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  25. Heard on Angel TV today, ` Conversions have been possible only in India. But now Satan is governing the country. So he is causing problems. ..... South Korea has been good. Even the minister is converted and now majority follow Christianity.' Is this free speech? Just look at the temple town of Rameswaram. There are families where parents and children, siblings follow different religion. I heard this from one son who is a christian with Hindu parents. He had to do the final rites for his father and when he checked with his priest in the Pentecostal church to which he belonged, he was told to go ahead with the last rites but get back to the priest and confess his sin.

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    1. These ppl are funded by CIA .... TO GOTO ISRAEL,TIBET,MANGOLIA,SRILANKA,NEPAL,BHUTAN etc. to DO religious Conversions based on JOSHUA PROJECTs......hmm i dont know when Modi will stop shaking hands with these type of Criminals who are day in and day out cursing Bharath mata and Hindhuism as children of Satans

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  26. Islam and Christianity both engender the same "rejection = persecution" mentality, wherein those who have no interest in converting are essentially considered as "oppressors". All of the expressions of distaste that arise from such rejections exhibit this kind of perceptual distortion at their root. It's another example of the extreme backwardness and qualities of reality-inversion characteristic of these cousins of hate and perversion.

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  27. This is the real "saffron terrorism" that the media refers to.Christian terrorist in saffron attire. This is called as Cultural terrorism & prostitution of religion in the name of preaching. Plagiarism (cheating / illegal use) with criminal intention ! This is a scary trend! They go to any heights to convert! it should be Christian terrorist in saffron attire... Need to put these kind of people behind bars....If they are so fond of Hindu traditions they should start worshiping Real Hindu Gods. Hold the Trishool instead of the Cross!
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=794754973923175&set=gm.886349668063860&type=1&theater

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  28. Sir,I apologize as my comment is not related to the above post.I just wanted to support your series of tweets about Sikhs killing Hindus during Punjab terrorism.You are absolutely right about what you said and I believe that Hindus have unfairly supported the myth of Sikhs as saviors of Hindus when history (eg Sikh betrayal during 1857 etc ) has shown that it is far from true.I live in Punjab and am suffocated by the pusillanimity of Hindu attitude towards Sikhs.Hindus face attack from all quarters and it is high time we join hands in crushing these threats.Sikhs believe British rule to be a fulfillment of some of their Guru's prophecy which got them material wealth as reward for betraying their motherland,this fact is not known among Hindus who falsely believe relative Sikh prosperity to be a result of some make believe 'hard work gene' which is apparently absent in the rest of non Sikh Punjabis.This coupled with the anti national asylum seeking trend among Sikhs got them money outside India at the expense of Indian foreign policy in international forums.Even today,Sikhs make great effort to distance their religion and way of life further from Hinduism and closer to Islam in more ways than one and dont even have the decency to accept that Nirguna Godhead philosophy at the center of Sikh religion comes directly from Hinduism and claim it to be thought by their founder on his own.

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  29. @Gautam Sharma
    I Partly disagree with you as me too from Punjab. What u said is true and this kind of mentality in Sikhs is of recent origin ie from Last few decades only.. All Gurus preached sacrifice, humanity and welfare of others ie the basic core of Indie religions like Hinduism,Buddhism,Jainism only. Sikhs are assertive in nature so there is tendency on their part to dominate.. In Hindus we are not bound by any Particular ritual and in the absence of any Identity based ritual , Hindus are too easily swayed by Assertive sikhs. And to compound the matter, Hindu as a religion is talked down upon fashionably in our country until now. While Muslim, Christianity has problems at its core ,it is not with Sikhism.. Guru Nanak I think was Born as Hindu only..

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  30. Dear Mediacrooks,

    As always a good article. Mario Puzo was another writer who wrote about church and its priests involvement in mafia and sex. His novel 'The Sicilian' mentions about Father Benjamino who is Don Croce's brother and has fathered Andolini who joins Turi's (Bandit's) band. God’s Bankers focuses on the Vatican itself which is really courageous of Gerald Posner.

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  31. Hi Ravinar When Prestitute and Hatd of General trending Missing your article

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  32. Posting image of a hospital PD form of a "missionary" hospital. They are asking about religion which has little relevance for a hospital and not gender which is usually relevant.
    Yes, I feel petty about doing this as the hospital has a good reputation as far as service is concerned.
    http://s10.postimg.org/fkxq7s3ux/hospital_form.jpg

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    1. Where is the name of the hospital ?

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  33. Where is the name of the hospital Mr. Counterview?

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  34. Sir,

    Recently, In the 'Emanuel Mission School, Jaisalmer' a madam named Rakhee asked to cut moulee (sacred thread tied around wrist) and through into the dustbin. my child talked to me about the boy with pity. I could see a look of resign and anger at the same time in the group of the teens.

    What do Christian fundamentalists get by instigating communal hatred against Christianity itself, that too in young minds.

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