Sunday, November 23, 2014

The Fake Language Debate



It may not make much of a difference to his game but it helps Roger Federer talk to audiences in some countries in their native language. He speaks French, Swiss German (his mother-tongue), regular German, English, Italian, Spanish and Swedish. Surely, one can safely estimate that Federer wasn’t taught all the seven languages in school. But a unified continent, open travel and exchanges and then as a professional player could have helped that. How do children learn languages? A new born baby learns to speak her mother-tongue by the age of 2 or 3. There is no special teacher but she hears the sounds in that tongue from age 0. In addition, she also learns Hindi or another language by watching movies or TV with her parents or on her own. She even sings songs and jingles easily at a very tiny age.

Just to reiterate a fact: English is not a foreign language for India. It is merely a second language and also happens to be a global language. Therefore, for all Indians to learn English to a certain level of reasonable proficiency is highly desirable and maybe even essential. Even Narendra Modi has equipped himself with a working level of English.

At many schools in Gujarat (especially places like Rajkot) parents and teachers of English medium schools have told me “We prefer English medium but our kids cannot speak English”. I had to tell the parents that their kids go to English medium schools but what happens when they get home? At home parents watch “Saas-Bahu” soaps on TV and the kids join in. The movies they watch are mostly Hindi. Their newspapers are Gujarati. They do not watch any English programmes of any sort. Even Discovery and History channels have turned into Hindi or other Indian languages. English movies are dubbed in Hindi. By the way, even teachers in such schools talk to other teachers and students in Gujarati. So the child which doesn’t hear or listen to English except as a medium of teaching anywhere will obviously not learn to speak English well or confidently. Speaking requires listening and conversing. Writing requires reading. Many students fail to answer questions in exams just because they were not able to comprehend the question (and this affects their performance in Math and Science too). And we blabber about a foreign language as a third language? So when the HRD ministry recently replaced German with Sanskrit the usual suspects started screaming “Ideology”. That’s what you expect of foreign propagandist NDTV:

At the bottom of the pic above I have underlined a statement which may not be legible. NDTV asks “what sense does it make”? That is, what sense the change to Sanskrit makes. These same media crooks didn’t ask why German was introduced back in 2011. I am not in favour of any third language but if it had one to be then I would certainly support Sanskrit over German. The crooks offer a spurious argument about German being a global language. Since when? Fact is; Spanish is more of a global language than German is. Spanish is spoken in Europe, most of Latin America and even many govt forms in the US have Spanish. So where did this nonsense of German being a global language come from? And replacing German with Sanskrit is a matter of “ideology”? More nonsense! Does that then mean Germany mostly transacts in German because of their “ideology”? In which case what justification does it have to bring German ideology to our schools?

In 2011 an MOU was signed between the Kendriya Vidyalaya and the Goethe-Institute for Teaching of German with the approval of the then HRD minister of Congress. What were the motives of these people? Did KV students desperately want to learn German? From my interactions, where foreign languages are concerned, our high school students have a greater fascination for French rather than German. Even so, what was the outcome? Here’s a report:

Despite grand MOUs and bogus talk of being global citizens by learning foreign languages,  our schools and govts are not even capable of providing teachers for the subject. We don’t produce enough teachers for even regular subjects. Mind you, I am not even talking about good, skilled teachers. They can’t even provide basic teachers. And this nonsensical fancy of govts fails because students don’t have an environment where they can hone the extra-language skills which I already explained with the Gujarat schools of English medium. To be truly learning a language students need a reasonable environment which uses that language. Students who learn German or French in later years do so better when they are better surrounded by such an environment such as the Goethe institute or Alliance Francaise where a majority of transactions and conversations are in that language. They learn it easier in a crash-course of 3 or 6 months because it’s a focused course and they teach only one language there and not with Geometry as an optional subject. Alliance Francaise has established a wide network in India for French. It seems the Germans were too lazy and wanted exploit our schools for their language promotion.

I have studied Sanskrit for two years in high school. I remember only a couple of prominent poems and verses and nothing more. I cannot read any Sanskrit book or understand the language. Our media morons think a couple of years of German will make a difference? The same will be true for teaching or learning German. Hardly any student will remember it two years later. But if I have to make a choice then I would prefer it was Sanskrit rather than German. The simple reason is a vast history of India is all in Sanskrit. It is preferable that interested students continue their pursuit and maybe become skilled in reading the Vedas or many literary works in Sanskrit. Even the Gita is in Sanskrit. But a majority of Indians have grown up reading the Gita in a translated form in English or Hindi or some other language. If there are ignoramuses in the govt and in our stupid media who think two years of Sanskrit or German will deliver some language skills to students then they are dumb poodles who know nothing about education or how children learn.

Think about how you acquired language skills at whatever level. We start learning our mother-tongue from almost age zero. We start learning a language in school (Be it English, Hindi or whichever medium) from KG (lately even Nursery) and we learn that language throughout our school years or even higher education. That’s how we acquire skills in a language; it takes 8-9 years of learning and practice to acquire a decent level of proficiency in a language. There are many students who go through school in their local language but when they have to get into medical school or a higher course they have to switch to English. Imagine the problems they face. That’s the reason Madrassa students also face problems when they get into the outer world for employment. And we are worried about German in school? This sly implementation of a foreign language into our system is what foreign govts do and our corrupt, direction-less local govts gladly oblige. I have no doubt bribes or donations may be involved to push the foreign agenda.

The bigger pity is our education ministries in the Centre and States are mostly dominated by people who don’t really understand education or children. They are mere poodles following a political agenda that has nothing to do with any ideology or real learning. There is even one Puducherry Education minister who has a case against him for exam-fraud. I would cite Anandiben Patel (the current Gujarat CM) as a rare exception who was an educationist and also a former Education Minister in the state.   

Children are already burdened enough. Their subjects should be reduced and some subjects don’t even have to be tested. Their scho0l-hours need to be shortened too. Children’s brains are turned into mashed potatoes at schools leaving them no time to pursue their real talents and hobbies. In CBSE schools I have seen a written test for PE (Physical Education) but no test on the field. That’s how crazy we are. But this fake outrage by our media crooks and some other quarters over Sanskrit being imposed for “ideological” reasons is sheer empty nonsense. Those who want to learn German can do so in a 6-month crash course instead of two years at school. People study English for six months and pass TOEFL to get a certified skill level. I am against imposing more languages. But if at all there has to be an option given to students I would certainly prefer Sanskrit any day over some German or French language.

PS: A word for those who keep ranting “Sanskrit is a dead language”. It is not. The influence and elements of Sanskrit are in most Indian languages from Hindi to Tamil to Gujarati. Everyday Hindu prayers have Sanskrit (including in schools). Hindu marriages have elements of Sanskrit. It is just that Sanskrit is a rich language that is not commonly used in our daily conversations and it never was. Are Shakespeare’s plays dead? Do we speak English like in his plays? Why do they still teach that guy? If we were to speak Shakespearean English in  every day life we would be considered out of place idiots. It may not be the best comparison but Shakespeare’s plays have richness in human qualities as does Sanskrit in our culture and heritage. Would the English do away with Shakespeare?


73 comments :

  1. The forces working against India would like nothing more than for Sanskrit to disappear completely. It would certainly make the Marxist-inspired job of subverting Indian history and heritage so much easier. But it's a war these maggots cannot win.

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    1. please tell me sir what you mean by "indian" speaking hindi, sanskrit, being Hindu alone "indian" leave german, as a tamilian there are vast number of people nowdays learning hindi contrary to what Dravadian parties say, but would your cultural nationalism include tamil, its civiliazation? this is where the conflict arises...

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    2. Sir,
      you need to clarify your point. Please try again.
      Thank You

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    3. Shankar G,

      other than language what is drastically different between various cultures in India? IMO, there are more similarities than differences, especially in spiritual, social and family aspects.

      BTW, Dravidian and other regional parties' objection to Hindi in place of English is more self-defeating. By embracing English for the sake of opposing Hindi, these languages are dying faster. So the cultures. All said and done Hindi is culturally close than European languages.

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    4. You and I carry a name that is indeed a Manthra so it is in Samskrutam. All Indians therefore carry Samskruta names. If we look at the no. of websites teaching Samskrutam in the world and in India, online, one can understand the renaissance of this epic language.

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  2. There is an interesting reference to Science and Education in the "Introduction" of the book "The Goal" by Dr Eliyahu Goldratt.

    He says that Science is simply the method we use to try and postulate a minimum set of assumptions that can explain, through a straight forward logical derivation, the existence of many phenomena of nature.

    He also says that the only way we can learn is through our deductive process. Presenting us with final conclusions is not a way that we learn.

    India is fortunate that 1000s of years ago sages observed nature and postulated a minimum set of assumptions or "Laws of Nature", that can explain, through a straight forward logical derivation, the existence of many phenomena of nature. These are documented in Vedas in a way which force the deductive process of discovery of these laws.

    Incidentlly, this body of knowledge is in Sanskrit. They formulated the language also that it would communicate highly involved concepts simply.

    All of us who have not studied Sanskrit as well as Vedas are poorer to that extant that we have to reinvent the wheel for life and living.

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  3. Thanks a lot again for an incisive article, Ravi Sir. Just this morning IE has an article of Meghnad Desai telling Sanskrit was only used by elites/ Brahmins in our history. He should be given this article of yours in a framed case.
    Regards
    Vibhav

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    1. Rather i would say Mr Ravi should be asked to read Mr.Desai's article. I am a tamilian and i would never follow what hardcore Dravidian parties say. i have a great regard for other languages like bengali etc. But telling sanskrit is superior to other languages is what makes it unacceptable

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    2. no Tamil is the most superior. or do you prefer me say Tamizh? vedic/ancient sanskrit is different from literary sanskrit. and both are treasure house of immense and profound knowledge. texts older than literary sanskrit draw references from vedic/ancient sanskrit

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  4. These Macaulay Putra/Putris are still having slave mentality and have sold their ATMA to foreigners.. Even though they are called Indians, they have no love or respect for their country or for any Indian values...One of my friend's son who went to Germany for higher studies, had learnt that language privately, as you said, within 6 months..These crooks forget that even Germans are in favour of Sanskrit...

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  5. the surest way of putting people off any language is by imposing it . another method to kill childrens' interest in any language is by the system of giving marks for a written examination and ridiculing any mistakes made. rather, the sounds of the language is something which learners will relate to , be it audio or video. attempts to speak should be encouraged howsoever bad the initial attempts may be. personally i picked up several languages in medical school constantly surrounded by patients who spoke in different languages. i would never have dreamed of this during my schooling... ,

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  6. Congress & communists' lobbies for the last 70 years are taking forward the same policy of British/Mughals, which constantly attacked on the self-esteem of Indians.Indian legacy and culture are being continuously ridiculed & insulted to hurt the self confidence of common citizen. Obvious idea is that a weak common man would never challenge the supremacy of rulers and their stooges.

    On the other hand it's naive to expect that Mr.Modi alone would change everything. Common citizen has to protest & oppose in whichever way possible against these low life propagandists.

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  7. Not only language our whole education system is flawed & I have studied for more than 18 years . My favorite line is of GB Shaw , Real education begins after you leave college . I regret I did not take this seriously when this line was taught in high school . I later heard cursory stories & came to know that our earlier gurukuls were much better off & we had educated men at the age of 12-15 years. The famous shwetketu went to a gurukul t a late age & after studies he was asked whether he has learnt what is that by knowing which everything is known . does our education come to match even 10 % of this line . The degrees with only unemployment skills & parents life & money wasted on it . PM Modi himself made it clear in one of the speeches , You are MA but what can you do & that too very early . Our engineers do not know simple things of fixing the tap, tubelight forget repairing . Now we have assembly instructions insert & we find it difficult to get it right . Most of our syllabus is repetitive , honestly the whole degree education course can be easily condensed in 12 years if not 10 . Most of the jobs available do not require much education . Operating credit card machine, computer . Most of the specialized white collared back office jobs are dying , replaced by machines that can be operated by primary school pass out . Does this govt has guts to reduce minimum education for all govt jobs where degree is required to XIIth . We will not need more resources in higher education . Most of the ministers including our education minister , entrepreneurs actors would agree to it

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  8. "If we have lost faith in our vernaculars, it is a sign of want of faith in ourselves; it is the surest sign of decay. And no scheme of self-government, however benevolently or generously it may be bestowed upon us, will ever make us a self-governing nation, if we have no respect for the languages our mothers speak." - MKG

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  9. Not sure of minister's but janitors of NDTV for sure got kickbacks to promote/defend GERMAN. Ndtv gave most airtime to this topic. Vishnu som did two shows "saffornazation of education" ...dumbass was not ok with term "hitlerization of education" for introducing GERMAN....

    I wonder what would been reaction of dumb media if MODI had introduced GERMAN. ..
    autocrat/hitler MODI introducing his language to kids bla bla bla .. shame on these ppl who doesn't understand or don't present facts on screen ..just rant rant and rant ...later they say MEDIA/JOURNALIST under attack. .

    MODI should now introduce "saffornazation of media" make them accountable

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    2. All the journalists and intelligensia must unite and speak-up against these biased congress slave media houses like NDTV, indian express, hindustan times and tehelka.

      Channel like NDTV will always try to find faults with everything that bjp will try to do and will always downplay every wrong doing of the congress. This trend of biased journalism by NDTV and newspapers like indian express, hindustan times and Tehelka in favour of congress is as dangerous as showing nag-nagin or babas or bhoot-pret on news channels.

      what mulayam singh did on his birthday , had a bjp mla or mp done ith, you would have seen NDTV play that for the next 3-4 days. Another thing that NDTV does is that they delibrately invite 3 or 4 guests as panelists in their talk shows,whose view are in favour of congress and invite 1 person from bjp and then all the guest plus the ndtv anchor ( like ravish kumar, barkha dutt etc.) gang-up against 1 bjp member. Congresss slave NDTV thinks people are stupid and will not understand their strategy of demonizing bjp for everything and downplaying congress's glaring apathy for developmen

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  10. Having a nervous breakdown often, especially that you are in your sixties now is not a healthy sign. Are you under medication if not, please visit NIMHANS in bangalore. They have excellent doctors there and can cure your ailment.

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  11. A big Kudos for this brilliant post!!! Through a seamless analysis weaved together with facts, you have shredded with ease all the fake arguments spewed by Hindu hating sikulars and ill-informed language chauvnistic morons. Its a pity though that many teachers, principals or even the education policy makers lack even an iota of the clarity of your thoughts in this language debate. Just a thought, it would be most helpful for parents and teachers alike, if you could do an extended take-off on this topic in ur EF blog.

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  12. Sanskrit is mother of all languages.. But you are free to dispute and follow your own agenda.

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  13. Since this issue hit the headlines I have been wondering why German of all European languages. Some Inglis news traders are even questioning Srimati Iranis
    education background as if only educated people know what is good for people.
    The slaves will never learn to question the relevance of German as against Hispanic, Chinese etc. And since when German Chancellor has right to interfere in Indian affairs. Sorry I forgot she has white skin. Again why not Sanskrit? I am told it is a beautiful language and also a scientific language. Those who dispute this please use Google and educate yourselves before writing. I urge all right thinking people to write to media to make your point. India has many enemies.

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  14. good analysis on Sanskrit Vs German

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  15. Sanskrit, is a high-power language. That's why, it is capable of envelopping you with those vibrations during chanting of mantras which helps in improved concentration, focus, channelization of energy. So, my vote for sanskrit. I am civil engineer, who has taken up teaching to the downtrodden in Bangalore. I find language knowledge - in both mother tongue as well as state language of students is pathetic. I do not know what language they speak in the name of english. That's why, I am insisting the students to learn kannada first (in english schools). That way, at least, in one language they will become proficient with clarity of thinking. English can be learnt in many ways. Syllabus - study materials for students right from 1st std to 10th is so much that 98% of the students resort to by heart than understanding the concepts. The rate at which this is happening is really mindblowing and "make in india" becomes impossible due to lack of real talent. Even now I wonder, how our software companies are producing the required product..! On my part, I am trying to make the children understand the concepts first and making them move away from "rank syndrome" . They are not even lucky to have nice English lessons which we used to have 40 years back like Gulliver, Julius Caeser, Signal Man, My experiments with Truth,......and many more in 10th (karnataka) and double whammy - no more do exist the breed of teachers, we had.

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  16. The whole of Europe is now learning english including poland, italy, switzerland, france,lithuania, latvia, et al. and, of course, Germany. I met all these at Vipassanna meditation camp, and was surprised at their english and upon questioning, learnt that due to necessities of modern world and business, everyone is being taught english at school or otherwise, which includes russia.

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    1. Yes ,but they learn their own language FIRST. Then English. You have to remember language ,culture and traditions and religion are intertwined. You neglect your language you neglect all the others. And English became universal because of colonisation. It wasn't always so. The path to Sanskrit will be slow but it can be done. The elite of this country seems to have lost their self respect and want to westernise Indian thinking. We need to think why Germans and Englis want us to learn their language.

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  17. Mr. Ravinar my mother tongue is Sanskrit. I have spoken it from the age of 3.
    I worked for 6 years in the German consulate in Bangalore and acquired language proficiency then. I can vouch for the fact that foreign language proficiency can be acquired at a later date, but to know your country you have to speak I its own language.
    Even a foreign country respects you only when you take pride in your own language. (people have complexes regarding this)
    Suyasha

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    1. yes. mother tongue should be given preference! respect mother tongue.

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  18. and the argument "many indians go to germany for advanced sanskrit studies ,this will help" !

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  19. I studies German in college purely because it had better scoring prospect compared to Hindi/Marathi/French/Urdu!!! I remember few friends who had studied Sanskrit in school (instead of Marathi as 3rd language) were able to grasp & interpret it better stating the base for learning any language is the best if you have studied Sanskrit. Even the teachers at Max Muller Bhavan (Fort area, Mumbai) told us the same thing...In all areas Sanskrit is much better language and is core ingredient of the idea of India...I am not sure if this is such an important matter to be tackled before the basic issues of creating better school infra, marks system, upgrading the syllabus etc...the HRD dept should be looking at such big issues first...then such silly things will loose importance...

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  20. It is funny to read Ravinar's comments on English in Gujarat. I remember Congress politicians in Gujarat were fighting over issue whether to start teaching English from 5th standard or 8th standard. In the end Gujarati students of my generation have stayed fairly mediocre in English. Even after staying in America for more than 40 years, many of us give phone to our children because the person on opposite end could not understand us.

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    1. Its funny how ur italian soniaji still can not speak english, its funny how germaans , french and spanish still can not speak english, it is because they have respect for their language and we do not.

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  21. The idea to introduce German by the then UPA govt was no secret. It wants as fewer indians to understand Sanskrit as possible.

    1.More problematic for the nehruvian intellectuals would be people with other high skills start influencing others . These people if along with their own skills in engineering and sciences, also has understanding about sanskrit. It would demolish the idea that people who read sanskrit are pan chewing communal wallahs.

    2. Nehruvian intllectuals only wanted only their small own group of incestual members learning some skills of it and then potraying to the world about india's backwardness and eveything diabolic about the other view.

    3. Germans will only be happy to give lecture to us in German, only few German intellectuals continue to believe in the now discredited Aryan Invasion theory and they needs this theory propounded by charlatans to continue so as to provide some reason to their prolonged careers who lived on this mythical theories.

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  22. A Persian and Arabic based language called Urdu, created to emphasise Muslim separateness and dominance over kafirs - and northern India's court language under Muslim rule - is regularly lionised by our slavish elite. Old Gandhi wanted it to be our national language with the pseudonym 'Hindustani'. Nowadays maulanas are paid handsome stipends to teach it. Some ver enthusiastic 'seculars' even want it to replace Hindi as the national language. It is the language of Bollywood films. Actors playing Hindu characters prance around singing 'Khuda', 'Maula', 'sajda' and so on. Methinks it is all well planned. Btw, no Muslim character ever sings 'Ram' or 'Bhagwan' in such films. It is a one way street, this 'secularism' traffic. Sanskrit? Oh no, it is the language of bigots according to the 'secular' tribe. Wonder what the people of Indonesia think about that? They are proud of their language containing dollops and dollops of Sanskrit! Ditto Thailand.

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    1. What I understood is KV's with student from rich and elite background are facing tough competition from smaller and other Private schools as this schools student outshine public exam and score 100% and Top states..So to bring there student to State Topper all this hulla bulla by Central Govt...At least elective subject can fetch out of out marks....

      By introducing such elective subject in school is because student can get good marks in their 10th Exams and nothing more to it. Few of my batch mate of 10th-1993 from Ahmedabad secured 99 in Sanskrit so do we think all those who secured are still well versed with Sanskrit and are doing yeomen service by contributing to our traditions?

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  23. Please watch this link
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKT1RHw-SVA,

    Please read this article also www.ndtv.com/article/world/sanskrit-thriving-in-uk-schools-34267, before they take it out from their site (ndtv).

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    2. Please read this article too http://www.charityfocus.org/blog/upload/2008/Sanskrit.pdf

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  24. Dear Ravinar,

    Really Interesting Observations. Completely agree with them. Apart from being a truly Indian language, I feel learning Sanskrit at school level will go a long term in revival of Hindu society because even backward caste children can have access to Sanskrit which they were denied earlier. Modi will surely win votes from Dalit's for this simple gesture.

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  25. Languages flourish with patronage of power. The power may be political, economic or cultural and even religious powers. People learn language to get some foothold in those power architecture. Urdu had a good run because of political power. Farsi was used in Mughal courts and the people engaged in courts had to learn it. People learnt English for the same reasons.

    However, German language does not fulfill any of the criterion. Learning of sanskrit helps one to understand any languages of IE origin. One understand the meaning of the words in his/her mother tongue.

    There is some resistance shown to Sanskrit by Tamil groups. It comes from two sources - a) When someone says "This particular language is better than all other languages" it will be resisted by many. (b) Tamil is a rich, classical + modern language that has not received its due recognition in North India. This is probably due to the fact that the English rulers found more affinity towards Sanskrit. Additionally, the false propaganda by British to create Aryan-Dravid division and subsequent Tamil politics has taken its toll where Sanskrit is pathologically hated, without any thought process.

    Tamils will, someday, understand that their reactions were unwarranted and non-productive.

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  26. One minor point about language education. I really feel all Indians should make effort to learn other regional languages (apart from mother tongue). My mother tongue is Hindi. But I have lived in Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Maharashtra. Really felt would have been so more easier to mingle and work there had I known basics of any of these local languages. Am trying to learn Marathi but its a slow process. I feel a formal education in school can help in laying a good foundation.

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    1. I agree. Actually Hindi should be made optional. It should be compulsory english and 'pick two language of your choice'.

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  27. Let me clear I am not against any language in the world. But the debate that is happening now is very sad.Days have arrived when we are questioning Sanskrit.Its because we have been complacent all these years and ppl with vested interests were very active. Few years back we used to call Sanskrit as mother of most of the Indian languages. Fools who are pushing German over Sanskrit is like they are questioning their own identity. Even westereners are coming to India to learn Sanskrit and we fools are running behind German. WTF! We have been slaves all these years and love to be slaves of others and their mindsets. V do not have confidence to push Sanskrit in other countries.Look at the sea of knowledge the ppl of this world would be exposed if they learn Sanskrit. Who are responsible 4 slow death of Sanskrit are our politicians with foreign agendas.Smritiji has done a wonderful job and should continue to revive Sanskrit no matter how much German shepherds keep barking.

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  28. Just like German was introduced with stealth in the KVs, the new government should have re-introduced Sanskrit. Why do these right-wingers have to take a big bang approach to everything. Moreover its less controversial if the decision seems bottom up rather than top down. She could have conducted a survey about logistical difficulties,teacher unavailability, usefulness, parents' opinion , put it out in the public domain and then provided Sanskrit as an alternative.
    But I guess smriti loves the limelight too much.

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  29. On a slightly different note on the issue of language, I am pained to see that vernacular languages in India are dying/weakening at the altar of Hindi.

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  30. Thank you for the wonderful article. As always a delight to read your blog.

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  31. To kill a language in India you do not need necessarily make it a third language, even as a second language you can do it . I can say it with authority as a person who used to teach both French and German for plus two +2, to some college students, some scientists, some diplomats etc. None of the students can speak nor were expected to neither speak nor even understand when spoken to in these languages. The story of Sanskrit also is the same I got 190 out of 200 in P.U.C. It was the University second mark and I did it writing 80 percent of the paper in English.

    The malady is because we want to and we follow most things ritualistically or just for the sake of doing it. Some 40 years back it was arts and crafts period where we were all given a bunch of cotton and spindle whorl [called Thakli in Tamil]{see picture in this link http://pages.ucsd.edu/~dkjordan/arch/cloth.html} to bring out threads out of raw cotton and sometimes the spinning wheel { http://theknittinggenie.com/.../youre-doing-it-even-more.../} [both these were given as part of the arts and crafts perhaps because Mahatma Gandhi used them, fortunately/unfortunately they did not give cigarettes because Nehru used them or tissue paper because lady Mountbatten used it.]
    Instead had they given paint, brush and canvass India could have produced lot of Picassos.
    What is the point in learning a language which you are never going to use for communication or understand when someone communicates in that language, or for that matter doing anything which is not going to be of use to you or through you to the society or your own body, mind or soul; what is the point in doing something which neither influences or impacts you nor do you influence or impact it. Incidentally on both these two topics I recently wrote two pieces http://contentwriteups.blogspot.in/2014/07/languagerituals-politics.html


    Normally languages with logical and culturally based etymology, rich literature, religious usage, day to day survival based requirement of its usage etc survive at all costs.


    As with life, with language also many changes happen some rational and logical and some just happen and which defies all logic as the great linguist David Crystal used to say both the words impedeand expede were introduced during the same period, as well asdisabuse and disadorn , but in each of these pairs only the first word stayed in the language for no logical or linguistic reasons .
    to read more you may refer to link
    http://contentwriteups.blogspot.in/2014/07/languages-and-language-teachers.html

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  32. When journalists become biased they try to downplay the mistakes of their favorite party and play up the mistakes of the other party.

    Journalists like kumar ketkar, rajdeep, barkha dutt, shekhar gupta, siddharth vardhrajan,ravish kumar etc try to hide or downplay all the mistakes of congress and try to find faults in everything that bjp tries to do.

    I have stopped taking NDTV seriously because of it's complete bias in favour of congress in the name of secularism. All this talk of supporting secularism by people like rajdeep sardesai and his ilks is complete hogwash, people like rajdeep and barkha dutt (and every one at NDTV) can't bear a common tea seller become the Prime Minster. Do not deamonize modi just because you want only expensive public school educated la-di-da snobs like mani shankar aiyer etc, that congress is full of, to govern this nation.


    Channel like NDTV will always try to find faults with everything that bjp will try to do and will always downplay every wrong doing of the congress. This trend of biased journalism by NDTV and newspapers like indian express, hindustan times and Tehelka in favour of congress is as dangerous as showing nag-nagin or babas or bhoot-pret.

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  33. Wether we like it or not but the unfortunate fact is that English is considred the socially superior language in our country, people inBJP,RSS and VHP will have to induct people who can speak english fluently to attract the elite,the intelligensia and glitteratti towards hindutva philosophy.

    What i am going to say might sound like a stupid and trivial reason but i strongly believe that because the congress is full of elite looking,english speaking people and because bjp is full of unsophisticated, uncouth looking people, a large section of the media especially NDTV,Tehelka,HT,Indian Express), the so called intelligensia and elite gliteratti favour the congress and not because congress has done something great for the country.

    The other fault of bjp and rss is that they have never tried to spread and explain the hindutva philosophy, which is to pray to god in all it's forms. This is the other reason why the broad minded people feel that supporters of hindutva are communal, narrow minded, uncouth and unsophisticated people who want people to fight with each other in the name of religion..

    I request all of those who are reading this to research on all the religions and you will find that hinduism is a religion which asks you to just believe that there is providence that is governing our lives while their are some other religions that have severely condemned people who do not believe in that particular religion. Hinduism does not condemn anyone on the basis of their religious believes.

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  34. The way the media and some parents are opposing this good move by HRD Minister to have our own Sanskrit in place of an alien language German proves only one thing - that such things happen only in India. This proves that even after 67 years, we still think that anything associated with Whites is great.
    I saw a silly argument on NDTV from a person that German is global language which will help in our job hunt. I want to ask him - Where ? Germans understand English. I work in a German MNC and I always interact with Germans in English. Even my colleagues have visited Germany and most of them cannot speak German.
    In short this opposition is only a token one just to oppose anything good done by Modi govt.

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    1. Plese stop taking ndtv seriously, they always want to find mistakes with whatever bjp does and will always downplay congress's incompetence and other wrongdoings.

      This trend of bias in favour of congress by ndtv,indian express,tehelka,and hindustan times and journalists like barkha dutt,rajdeep,ravish kumar,om thanvi,abhey kumar dubey,urmilesh etc is very dangerous for country and democracy.You will notice that the above mentioned journalists and media houses will always try to badmouth everything that bjp will try to do and will always try to hide or downplay congress's apathy towards development and other wrong doings

      Most of media especialy ndtv thinks secularism means criticizing hindutva.

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  35. I request RSS,BJP and VHP to expain the hindutva philosphy to everyone, try to theologically make people develop liking for hinduism, rather than trying to force or brow-beat people into appreciating hindutva.

    And plaese induct some people who can speak english fluently, because unfortunately in this country no matter how much sense you make with your conversation, the youth and the people from elite are not going to like you if you speak hindi which unfortunately is considered the inferior language in our country.

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  36. On seeing today's children speaking English, Hindi or their state language instead of their mother tongue, I am proud that my parents forced us to speak in our mother tongue at home.
    Most of my cousins speak English, Hindi or Marathi at home instead of their Mother tongue. I find it very odd.
    I always wonder how can any person leave his mother tongue.
    Coming to the subject of Sanskrit, I feel some amount of compulsion is required to study Sanskrit, like ur mother tongue at home.
    Like there is an ad "India Mein sirf Force chalta gain".

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  37. At this rate our MSM will become mere objects of ridicule and mirth.They are running out of ideas to oppose or criticize this government.India is 85% Hindus and there are only a handful of Hindus who will oppose learning of Sanskrit.You are right.All Vedas and scriptures are written and preserved in Sanskrit.All educated Europeans,Americans,Canadians,Australians have much more exposure to Greek and Latin then we Indians have to Sanskrit.If at all we want to study a foreign language other than English, it should be Mandarin or Spanish.Why German?

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  38. My take is 1. Lets first understand the origin of our own mother tongue and language family of all indian languages then we will understand the greatness and richness of Sanskrit.. First of all we dont value ourselves, we just get carried away so much that we forget who we are.2. It all starts at home: it is we who are lost, so called corporate families they themselves are so much confused imagin what will they reach their children.. In Telugu there is a saying " Pulini chusi Nakka vata petukundi.." meaning seeing Tiger fox tried to burn its body with hot iron rod to get the strips like tiger....This is the time India needs great countrymen to protect its rich heritage no matter which ever part of world we live in...Say no to this corporate English at home. Ex: parents the way they talk to their young kids aping neighbours..mixing languages in mother tongue..plz teach values..teach greatness of our mother tongue...otherewise we will loose our own identity..n thats worst thing to happen to India..cunning people knows this and our weakness n thats why they are taking advantage of this situation. Remember Swamy Vivekananda Awake Arise .. Jai Hind!!....

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    1. It is a fact that those who speak their mother tongue are more multilingual.

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  39. Of course a good certification program should teach most or all of these topics, and it's common for schools to give an orientation before teaching starts.

    IELTS Exam question Writing

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  40. Ravinarji has got it wrong this time. Sanskrit is a dead language because there is no Sanskrit speaking country. Whether you like it or not, learning German makes more sense because it is a widely spoken language in a part of the world. Therefore a person knowing German enjoys some practical advantage and possesses a useful skill. This is definitely NOT the case with Sanskrit. Besides, though the BJP, RSS etc will tell you all about how rich and great the language is, they won't tell you the association of the language with the caste system, atrocities against dalits and women by brahmins and upper castes and such stuff which we need to desperately live down. The brahmins always claimed they were only following Sanskrit scriptures when committing atrocities against women and lower castes.

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  41. Mr. Vivek! I think you got it wrong, it is not the sanskrit that is dead but its our thinking that is dead....we dont seem to appriciate ourselves n btw nobody is stopping you from exploring the world..plz tell me whts the % of population in India get an opportunity to explore? Please read the origin of Sanskrit n how many words have been derived from Sanskrit...we all feel good about word getting derived from Latin or sm others but we dont really know our own potential...thats the concern area...saying sanskrit dead we should call it a day fir all our mother tongue...thats unfortunate...

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  43. It seems very soon NDTV will label all the vegeterians as hindu fanatics.

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  44. I do not know why the Modi govt is keeping quite on these media, instead of chasing them out of the country for strangely it is only in India, every thing is in favor of foreign countries including supporting pakistan and these media does not any trace of patriotism in their reporting. It is time that these media houses are asked to close down or send few sharp shooters to shoot them with bullets slightly missing their targets, which should be enough to send some shivers in their bodies and bring in some patriotism or atleast stop the nonsense they are spreading on the media in the garb of news.

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  45. The dislike which later on became aversion to Sanskrit language is also the Nehru legacy. Nehru’s antipathy towards anything remotely perceived to be connected with Hindu wisdom and cultural heritage is responsible for removal of Sanskrit from school curriculum. He branded Sanskrit as ancient court language and not meant for common men. And as imperialism in India was to last longer even after 1947 with perpetuation of Nehru court, all the effort were made to throw Sanskrit into extinction. Hand of those who were installed during Nehruvian era mainly to distort and destruct Hindu history cannot be denied, as Vedas, Upanishads and Puranas which are the richest treasure of not only of India but of human civilization are in Sanskrit.

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    1. I am not so sure about Nehru's negative involvement in Sanskrit. I studied in Kendriya Vidyalaya and Sanskrit was the third language we studied from Class-5 to Class-9. In fact in some Kendriya Vidyalayas, where there were enthusiastic Sanskrit teachers, the students ditched Hindi and took Sanskrit test in class tenth.
      This was in early nineties and we were still entrenched in congress rule. If Nehru had made an effort to throw Sanskrit out, we could not have the situation described above.

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    2. Having a second look at the information from archives, I have no hesitation in accepting that it was not right on my part to throw blame on Nehru for the current controversy on Sanskrit. I also accept that it was not Nehru who belittled the status of Sanskrit. But the role of Nehruvian Secular brigade cannot be overlooked. Name of HRD minister of state in UPA is E.Ahmad.who signed MOU by which Sanskrit was thrown out for the place of German.

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  46. Perfectly put! In fact most of the KV teachers who came to GI to learn mid-level German could not even pass the course. I wonder what will they teach their students and what will the students retain!

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  47. Recommend to let loose Dr. Subramaniam Swamy on Italian bar maid and her autism son to get the bills moving in the parliament. Why is the Modi Govt is sitting quite on this imposters ? i.e. cloned Gandhi family ?

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  48. Raviji... one of your best articles till date..

    I fully agree with the view expressed in this article.

    Regards

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  49. "There was a time in this very India when, without eating beef, no Brahmin could remain a Brahmin; you read in the Vedas how when a Sannyasin, a King or a great man came into a house, the best bullock was killed."- Swami Vivekanand, Lectures from Colombo to Almora. That is what Swamiji one of the greatest Hindus said in a lecture more than a hundred years ago. Hindus have been fooled all along by brahmins about beef, gau mata, vegetarianism and so on. If you start teaching Sanskrit and Vedas then Hindus will start eating beef. Does the RSS want that to happen?

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  50. What influence Sanskrit has on Tamil?
    Tamil is a Dravidian language. Sanskrit is a Aryan language.

    This super imposing of Sanskrit/Hindi and the caste system is the bane of India.

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    1. So you have a problem with sanskrit and hindi which are the languages of india. but u do not have a problem with foriegn language like german, and by the way german and english are also aryan languages as well. Although i do believe that caste system must end.

      To the person who said that hindu's use to eat beef, i do not know about that but i do know that hinduism or sanatan dharam does not ask u to kill people on the base of their religious beliefs, sanatan dharam also does not say that u will geet salvation because someone else bore all the pain for your sins, so believe in him and u will get salvation. Hinduism wants u to believe in karma, so as per sanata or hindu dharma if u do good karma u ar good human being regardless of which god u follow, hinduism lets people to pray to god in all its forms. it is a secular religion and this message is what all supporters of hindutva need to spread.

      like shahrukh khan said in a movie my name is khan and i am not a terrorist, hindus will have to make a movie and say my name is mohit (or any hindu name) and i am not a terrorist.

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    2. @ Aar Aar - 'Dravida desa' means the land where the three oceans meet. Any person living in the southern Indian peninsula is a 'Dravidian' (a purely geographical term). 'Arya' denotes a human being refined in noble (Dharmic) values elaborated in the Vedas. Any 'Dravidian' can be an 'Aryan', provided she/he emulates the Vedic value system. Any 'Aryan' can be a 'Dravidian', provided she/he inhabits the southern Indian peninsula. In the Thamizh ('Tamil') language an 'Arya' is denoted as 'Ayya'. The celebrated Thamizh classics ooze Vedic values and have a rich dose of Samskrita ('Sanskrit') origin words.

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