Sunday, March 30, 2014

Self Destruction



Many humans have demons in their head; real or imaginary. They fight these demons in different ways. Some self-flagellate to punish themselves for some sins, some destroy their relationships or opportunities. There is this true story about a man who had everything a person could ever have. He was a good fighter, had good income, family and fame but his demons turned him in to a monster. Every emotion known to humankind was in abundance in him; love, anger, humour, hate, rage, jealousy, greed, intrigue, revenge, trust, suspicion, self-interest and self-loathing. You name it he had it. You may have heard of “Raging Bull” in reference to stock markets but the original story is of a boxer named Jake La Motta. Jake’s story is not very different from Shakespeare’s Othello. The only difference is that Jake delivered justice to himself inside the ring. He dealt punishment to his wife for his jealousy and suspicions, or to his brother, or to the mafia or he punished himself for his sins.

The movie “Raging Bull” is the story of Jake (Robert De Niro), one of the most extremely self-destructive characters. It is not about boxing and the movie has just about 10 minutes of boxing scenes. But those 10 minutes of boxing are some of the most vicious, graphic and bloodiest scenes ever put on film. And the scenes are not from the spectator’s seat, it is from right inside the ring. Let’s watch a bit (4.30 mins):

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During his career and after retirement Jake had lost all his relationships. He had become a pitiful tub of lard and a pathetic stand-up comedian. Yet, by the time the movie ends, one feels a strange sense of sympathy for this vicious character. Sympathy for a loser! Every emotion and intrigue that Jake embodied can also be found in organisations with lots of people in them. In regular business organisations, NGOs, media houses, religious organisations and, most of all, in political parties. Let’s get back home.

The BJP is not exactly Jake La Motta but the party is suffering the consequences of all the negative human emotions of Jake that I listed earlier. Jealousy, intrigue, cunning and much more. At a time when the world’s most corrupt party among democracies should be thrown out the BJP is hell-bent on scoring self-goals. Not a single major event or decision in the party passes without controversy and mud-slinging. All of it cannot be passed under the garb of “we are a democratic” party. This is self-deception in implying democratic parties can never arrive at decisions in a cohesive manner defeats its purpose. To add to this, they have made some atrocious attempts to enrol the scumbags of India like Pramod Muthalik and Sabir Ali. Both had to be thrown out after their cadres and supporters revolted. Neither of these two scumbags would have brought any positive value to the party.

The tragedy is that on a day a video of a guy called Imran Masood (Congress) issuing threats to Modi surfaced the media was compelled to focus more on the comic self-goal of enrolling a character like Sabir Ali. I have to say this and say this bluntly: there are certain very senior leaders in the party who are no different from the pathetic stand-up comic that Jake had become. They are often referred to as “tall leaders” of the party. They may be tall but their height simply cannot be allowed to cloud a common goal of victory. Tall leaders need to demonstrate greatness and not engineer petty squabbles. Imagine, the Congress has been reduced to rubble with only Rahul Gandhi campaigning for them. And all this young child can talk about as solution to the country’s problems is “Love”. What kind of juvenile jerk talks of love and affection to the poor, backward, Tribals and Adivasis who have been deceived for ages by the Congress? In their arrogance the BJP appears to have taken victory for granted because the Congress appears to be losing.

Three months ago four of the current BJP CMs delivered a stinging blow to the Congress in the state elections. It wasn’t very different from the battering Jake delivers to Janiro. He delivers a bloody and brutal knock out. It is the conduct of some of the party’s members that makes people wish there were other options too. Fortunately for them, another juvenile jerk has made a thorough fool of himself with his street antics. We are now into the final phase when elections will commence. Any more bumps are bound to cause severe damage. A huge majority of the nation has backed Narendra Modi for PMship. It is time these sideshow actors in the party openly throw their full weight behind him and avoid any serious accident.

Jake La Motta had lost his title once over his personal demons. The BJP lost power in 2004 out of faulty appeasement policies of ABV and complacency. When he gets a second shot at the title Jake’s demons had grown so huge that he feels the only way to redeem himself is to take a severe pounding and then prove he wasn’t knocked out. There is a lot BJP can learn from him. Not being knocked out is not victory. The party is only one step away from self-destruction should there be another accident. There are BJP leaders who keep making odd statements which seem to originate from a Jake-size ego. There are regulars but even people like Shivraj Chauhan stated yesterday that he wants Modi as PM but Modi can’t work alone. Is there any intelligence in that statement? Why make such dumb statements in the first place?

If the BJP screws up, they will end up like pathetic stand-up comics and would have let down a whole nation waiting in hopes of a change. They should prepare for a 272-knock-out of the CongressPlus and not attempt a 160-points victory. One more major accident is sure to cause serious self-destruction.  


100 comments :

  1. Dear Ravinar,
    The fact that you are a movie buff helps in explaining different perspectives beautifully. BJP scoring 272 is out of the question. This article needs to be read by SS, AJ, RS, LKA. Amongst all these comedians in different parties (regardless of who wins the elections) there is only one man who will continue to stand tall and gracefully- NaMo.

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  2. Some people on Social Media and MSM are complaining that BJP is becoming authoritarian and one Man Party and seniors are sidelined. I think there is clinical cleansing of BJP by nationalist Narendra Modi, he is forcing those who were trying to gain some pseudo secular credentials by praising fundamentalist and power hungry Jinnah.

    Sidelined LK Advani praises Jinnah (http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050605/asp/nation/story_4828954.asp)

    Sidelined Jaswant Singh follows the footprint

    (http://www.rediff.com/news/report/jaswant-praises-jinnah-again-likens-him-to-gandhi/20100415.htm)

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    1. The problem with the oldies, is they want to die sitting in parliament. They have not added or brought new leaders. Khangress earlier under Indira Gandhi threw out all those who had leadership skills, today, they are suffering from lack of leaders who can pull crowds. Sushma Swaraj or Advani are aging leaders, should give way to new and young persons so that they get training for next 5 years and standup on their own feet later.

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  3. I agree with you Ravi, these tall-leaders are being sidelined and they are sidelined for good as I my understanding is.

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  4. I remember, during Nitin Gadakari's tenure some one was inducted in BJP and there was huge uproar in Media. BJP leaders should learn by this time that your small mistakes will also be exaggerated out of proportion by vested interest in Media. Secondly, Politicians should learn to say NO. If Muthalik and Sabir Ali wanted to join BJP, BJP leadership should have said plain big NO. Or should have kept them waiting for eternal time. I completely agree that this guy called Sabir Ali was daily spewing venom on NaMo and suddenly turned the coat and entered in BJP just because he was upset with JD(U). He cannot jell with BJP/RSS. Well! if it is a well thought out strategy to make him धोबी का कुत्ता, न घर का न घाट का then it is different thing. But it didn't play in that way. Congress is much smarter in fooling such turncoats like Narayan Rane in Maharashtra.

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    1. Don't know how many of the commentators here are from Bihar, I am not either, but last night talked to a friend who is native of Bihar. This guy still has sympathy for AAP so I feel his comments from a BJP perspective are unbiased.
      He said "BJP could have really dented into muslim votes with help from Sabir Ali. That guy can bring more muslim votes to BJP then the combined efforts of all Muslim leaders of BJP (Naqvi, Shahnawaj et al)"
      This guy has not one single corruption charges against him, he was a Modi hater who has turned Modi fan(May be for his own reasons but why should BJP care, they didn't offer him a seat or any out of ordinary favors). He says he was mislead about Modi and Gujrat and reality of Gujarat is different. Sabir Ali joining BJP dents the theory of MSM about muslims fearful of Modi. Inducting him in BJP was a good move but then others thought that his presence reduces their importance in BJP.
      In short, we all are supporters of same person but from our vantage point we might not be seeing things in right perspective.

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  5. At a time when the world’s most corrupt party among democracies should be thrown out the BJP is hell-bent on scoring self-goals.It can't be described better then this. Modi make them claim 2 feet forward by end of the day. Before Modi begins his next day March, BJP put 3 steps back by the D4 idiots sitting in Delhi. I hope God will not be that merciless to see the other side.

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  6. I think Sabir Ali could damage BJP more when he was thrown out of JDU than when he was in JDU. Wish they would not commit such mistakes any more before elections.

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  7. Excellent and Timely Warning to BJP. If Modi is serious about WINning then he should supply extra strong adhesive tapes to zip up the mouth of these job leaders in his party. Most of these so called "tall leaders" can't even win a municipal poll of their own if they stand on their merit or even past deeds. If BJP fails in its mission 272+ in this election, it will be no less traitors than Congress and they will be rightly and deservedly confied to the dustbins of history.

    Once again the move analogy was too good. Hope the dumbells in BJP get it.

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    1. I agree with you. Actually even normal people on the roads could see what is happening within BJP and with its 'so-called' BIG-WIGS.If they waste this historical chance, they will be thrown into dustbins forever, like Chiranjeevi in AP who wasted his historical chance-due to lack of skills,vision,cohesion and daring in statements.

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  8. For BJP the enemy is with in.....what this Pappu n AK49 can do them........Hope BJP will not let the Nation down with there symantecs....

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  9. But then there is no cure for inherent mediocrity . The bungling fumbling leaders and,spokespersons of bjp have always been like this . Scoring self goals at will. If this time they are unable to get 272 - then a large part of blame goes to both to Narendra Modi ( as head of election campaign ) and Rajnath Singh.

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  10. What you mean by one more major accident sure to happen

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  11. shudder to think of scenario of NAMO not making it to the top. MSM will have filed day and feel emboldened to pursue their divisive agenda. Also as part of strategy certain channels which gave NAMO/BJP above 230 has now started spinning opposite numbers for the battleground posing as intellectuals and discussing the trends in states to project an anti-namo shift.
    in Need to expose this.

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  12. Yes about a couple of weeks back someone at the top in BJP pressed a slow burn self-destruct button and this is working as expected. I had tweeted a reply to one of your tweets saying BJP had lost about 25 - 30 seats in the past 2 weeks and many BJP supporters jumped on me for that comment but then i said that before this Shabir Ali episode and everyday BJP is reaffirming the sentiments expressed in the tweet. Why doesn't the party and its president make a public announcement that 'Doors are closed for admission till 18th May'. It would serve them well.

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    1. Exactly my feelings. BJP must announce that its' doors are closed for whomsoever wants to join it ,at least till 18th May.

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  13. Offlate I have come across a lot of BJP supporters on twitter who have developed this attitude that ''we will do anything, rest will have no other option but to come and fall at our feet". This makes me extremely uneasy! Your point about arrogance particularly applies to the Andhra Pradesh unit of BJP, which has done absolutely nothing to reach out to voters or no major rallies but sit in studios and keep repeating ''we are strong, modi wave will make us win''.

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    1. You are right. BJP workers on the ground are doing nothing, they just expect that majority will fall in their hands because of Modi! In this Modern Mahabharat there is only one Pandav fighting for the nation, we hope he succeeds.

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    2. Exactly, Pawan kalyan is doing more service to BJP then BJP's own cadre. I dont see any rally by BJP in AP

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    3. same here in TN - Vijayakanth is spreading NaMo and BJP here while TN BJP Leaders are invisible.
      My Guess - a few states where leaders are close to LKA have shut shop - plans to bring down 225 to 180 by LKA and co., fully underway.

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    4. Precisely this is happening in Madhya Pradesh . Shivraj Singh Chouhan has deliberately fielded at least 8 candidates who are either new or not capable of winning. The fact that Shivraj is a known Advani sympathizer is not making things easy for Modi . Out of 29 seats in Madhya Pradesh ... BJP was capable of winning atleast 27 ... but now even 20 is a far cry . Open case of sabotage by Shivraj

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  14. Foot soldiers of BJP in SM needs to hard hit the MSM biases and show their true face to the nation. SM job is increased to point out each and every farce of #PaidMedia like ABP/AajTak/NDTV/CNNIBN/IBN7 and other Hindi channels.

    There is show on Modi from Madhukishwar being shown on NewsX (Decoding Modi) and IndiaNews (Modi Ek Khoj). BJP leaders should try learn from this series and promote the points from that in front of public and MSM to silence by focusing on the achievements in last 12+ years.

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  15. Exactly! A lot of BJP has become parasitic, leeching off Modi. Why aren't these "tall leaders" busting their asses off to campaign? Why does only Modi have to do countless rallies while these jokers tweet bullshit, induct jokers and make foolish statements?! Also why do the rest of the BJP always be apologetic? Apart from Modi, the only other rockstar in BJP is Amit Shah...he single handedly demolished a roomful of presstitutes without breaking into sweat.
    Time that others learnt to believe in themselves and their cause. Empty words cannot deceive people unless there is belief backing those words!
    As usual, Ravinar...perfectly articulated!

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    1. "Apart from Modi, the only other rockstar in BJP is Amit Shah...he single handedly demolished a roomful of presstitutes without breaking into sweat. "
      fully agree with you

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  16. Its pathetic to see BJP's so called Tall leaders fighting openly either by PC's or by tweets.What baffles me is that, no one looks to be supportive of Modis hard work, every one wants to ride on him doing nothing on ground yet wants to score some brownie points and claim superiority and one upmanship.I feel that old gaurd has to becleansed after the election as they bring more disrepute than anything positive to the govt led by NaM. Finally, I can say that as of now, BJP is surviving because of NaMo not because of so cslled tall leaders.Its better they understand.

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    1. I agree 100% with you. All the neutral people MAY vote for BJP this time because of MODI; not vice versa.. BJP minus Modi is nothing but a bunch of mediocre people.

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  17. "Shivraj Chauhan stated yesterday that he wants Modi as PM but Modi can’t work alone. Is there any intelligence in that statement? Why make such dumb statements in the first place?" - This is a dumb statement only for people who think Modi is a superman and will do everything by himself. For everyone else, this is a valid statement. He needs able support from his ministers (cabinet and state level), MPs, bureaucrats as well as state CMs to implement his policies.

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    1. @Ashok

      It is dumb simply because nobody expects a PM to work alone. Does anyone expect a CM to work alone? Only fools think Modi is a superman.. It implies Shivraj and others are fools who are succumbing to such nonsense. Dumb are those people who forget that even a CM who is working for 13 years has a team with him. There is no solution to "imaginary demons" like the post implies..

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    2. When i first read Shivraj's statement, i too felt it was a dumb statement. 'Dumb statement because ' you don't need to state what is obvious, which has no qualitative value' . The downside is media could rake it up for its orgasmic value to them, diverting the CORE ISSUES of this election.

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    3. ' you don't need to state what is obvious, which has no qualitative value'. The downside is media could rake it up for its orgasmic value to them, diverting the CORE ISSUES of this election - Exactly, this is what BJP leaders need to learn before making any general statement.

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    4. True.Why say that Modi can't work alone? obviously he can't.In Gujarat it is his team that has been delivering.

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    5. Actually it is not a dumb statement. It is a calculated statement. He just wants to feed fire. There is some belief that Modi is all and sole. By fanning fire to such belief, if BJP's lead would go down, Shivraj (and many Modi haters in BJP) believe that BJP would get many more coalition partners if Modi is prevented from becoming PM. Shivraj has PM ambition himself.

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    6. I am from Madhya Pradesh and have been keenly observing the internal politics of BJP . Once again I am stating that Shivraj is very much a SABOTEUR ,he is an Advani sympathizer who has PM ambition . This is evident by the kind of candidates who have been fielded by MP BJP . Deliberate ploy to lose atleast 8 seats which could have been easily won . I fear that election result headlines could be ' Infighting in the BJP sinks the NAMO ship' .

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  18. if the bjp reads this article at this point in time they may think a'self goal' is a 'selfie'. the way their brains are scrambled these days who knows what's cooking. cheers.

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  19. Haven't other parties also welcomed crooks into their fold? Democracy is all about numbers - if you don't have numbers - howsoever Nationalist or patriotic you are you cannot sit on the seat of real power that can help bring a change- If ABV committed some mistakes by trying to become secular - I hope todays BJP does not commit mistakes that may reduce the numbers and also the supporters need to look at the bigger picture instead of behaving like angels of truth and I can safely bet none of them are- even if one has bought a train seat by bribing the TC - he/she are corrupt and untruthful - so please stop preaching - become more realistic- and secondly why air ones feelings into the media which is already anti-what does this say of the leaders who do that? Are they being provoked sufficiently or being prodded/induced to deliberately hurt the party or Modi to be precise? MSM is crooked as we know so avoid and be away-from the suspect journos- why give them a chance to broadcast a magnified version? Have we seen how congress has defended the most despicable act? Learn from Congress to be loyal- even if we hate them!

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  20. no point in agonizing over decisions like taking Muthalik & Ali - they were rightly removed in the end. Right now, our focus should be to campaign on the ground for Modi...irrespective of what the local party unit is doing. first things first - get Modi to power, and then he can focus on the task of setting the country AND his own party in the right direction.

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    1. Vikram

      What do you think this article is asking BJP and you to do? Any idea?

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  21. It is very clear now about the existence of the so called the D160 rogue brigade within BJP as claimed by MK in her tweet. It is yet not clear if AJ and SS are on the same side though some public comments seems otherwise. I guess it is deception.I am counting on Modi being an expert political strategist focusing on his mission. I guess he prefers them to be inside the tent pissing out than having them outside pissing in at this time. Modi brand has weathered all the political opposition and I guess the last milestone to achieve is win our the covert opposition of the insiders. I am sure there is a plan. Rogue brigade does not realize now that they will be finished politically regardless of the outcome. If Modi becomes PM, it could be slower as he could co-opt them. It would be faster if Modi fails. The cadre is not going to be forgiving. I hope better sense prevails among this rogue brigade. For all the anxieties in Modi supporters, one man who is standing tall and silent is Modi. I am sure he has plans to deal with this.

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    1. Well said.[A] Cadres won't forgive them and they will be finished [B] Modi is watching this tamasha ,while he sweats it out.

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  22. An excellent post. Quite the real situation, although it makes me weep from realizing that hindus have to be the stupidest community ever in the whole wide world. We dont seem to realize that the time for parlor games is after a win, not before it.

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    1. Exactly. This is happening since ages. Otherwise why a Mohammed of Ghazni or a Vasco de Gama would win over us and made us slaves for 1000 years.

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    2. We dont seem to realize that the time for parlor games is after a win, not before it. - So true... fully agree.

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  23. Points for self appointed god of SM
    1 .Don't let followers enter into ur holes
    2. Not all castes talk/read english
    3. Even those speak English doesn't watch all movies
    4 . congress is clever it takes whatever it can and it gives tickets to corrupts as they hv chance to win
    5 your wishful drama lower middle class /poor doesn't understand. .they look for reprentation
    6.Don't be emotional fool..its politics. .reach on the top and change the rules else keep following whatever is set by opposite end
    7.If BJP and it's cadres want to preach cleanness lessons then ur rant makes sense
    Else it's lost of few votes
    8.those who r committed to BJP will vote no matter if ask comes or not but whoever want to vote ali may not vote bjp.
    9.i agree BJP has issue with training of its TV spokespersons and leaders refusing to follow hierarchy.
    10. But point 9. Has nithing to do with joining/making ppl members. .its BJPvsREST..so if face brings 1000 votes bjp must grab it..ekse thosr 1000 r opposite to it..simple
    11.so BJP must not take decisions & reverse tgem because god like u offended. .u bring one vote to booth (guess) but those in politics brings more..so please don't play lije every voter thinks like u..

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    1. You should be named sissy. Ranting against MC will not help. I am sure people who care listen to MC more than they listen to you.. Don't be jealous.

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    2. Singh!! Are you Rajdeep Sardesai or his wife? I found Media Crooks in absolutely correct in His logic wherever he stated some thing. I am happy to read his blog, so are many. At least I am enlightened 1000 times more after reading his blogs and joined (continued in) twitter only to start following him. Don't preach him or be jealous of his following

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    3. BJP must not take decisions & reverse them because god like u offended. .u bring one vote to booth (guess) but those in politics brings more - Agree, but here the problem is with MSM, they are looking for every corner to host debates bashing Modi, so BJP must take decision keeping in mind Summum Bonum.

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    4. Umesh

      You are wrong for poor thinking. 6 million plus views indicates that Ravinar dpes not brings just 1 vote. This is the folly of poor reading. His writing influence thousands of voters (if not millions). Both you and Ccie are not good judges of writings if this is your understanding.

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    5. Ravi is not BJP ..and ppl like ur ...
      We r not judging his blog but point he is highliting. ..it's very simple BJPVSREST. .so do the math and be smart. .don't be emotional fool...VAJPAEE lost his govt by one vote and country lost lacs crores wealth. .country went backward..and many got converted. ..do u really think it was worth to be emotional fool when opposition believes everything fair in politics???

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    6. Anyone first teach this sissy singh guy how to write proper english . His writing stinks . Ravinar ... if such poorly written comments are allowed here ,the comment space of your blog will lose readers

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    7. Dumbass ..
      1.Ra-vi is not taking English classes
      2.It's not english test
      3.It's easy to make fools like you slaves
      4.Not abusing anyone but i see it differently...
      5.You cannot play fair when opposite person doesn't beleive in doing tht
      6.Becuase point 5. muslims enter india and converted many
      7. Don't be a slave or ass-licker

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    8. sissy .... everyone here thinks that you are claiming that not only you but your ass is also dumb .

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  24. Two extreme reactions will emanate after reading this blog..the BJPians will sulk because what you have written is true and the likes of RajdeepSardesai will smile and salivate at the possible probability of Modi being defeated..So the "hunting season" will start more feverishly ..hunting for the 160 wallahs who can inflict more damage on "Jake la BJP

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  25. Spot on Ravinar, for BJP leaders who come across this article, for Gods sake wake up and don't take Indian voters for granted. And for the so called tall leaders like Advanis, Sushmas keep aside your moronic self ambitions. For the top leaders who take moronic decisions like inducting scumbags from other parties, please apply your mind.

    By the way where is the great Arun Shourie, we haven't seen him in limelight at all. He was the only tall leader who backed Modi's PM candidature strongly.

    The selfish and sulking leaders should be shown their places, it is time to motor the party towards the 272 mark rather than shooting on their own foot.

    And if at all the so called tall leaders try to sabotage Modi after the election, I promise BJP will be doomed forever afterwards. This time majority of people are voting for BJP just becoz of Modi and if you moronic tall leaders try to act against people's trust then even God cannot save BJP.

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    1. Pull up your socks BJP, Congress has already won the election and UPA III is a reality, as Subramaniam Swamy said, Modi Wave can be countered only if the EVMs malfunctions, and in spite of all odds, the UPA won in 2009, how? So if BJP looses, the media will say that BJP self destructed

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  26. BJP getting opportunists from other parties and giving them ticket is going to prove suicidal before and after elections:
    In Arunachal Pradesh, 11 Congress candidates have been elected UNOPPOSED because BJP candidates have withdrawn their nominations. Among the BJP nominee who withdrew is a former Sonia Gandhi Congresswallah.

    After elections most of these turncoats if they win on Modi wave will show their colours by deserting BJP and turning "secular" or they will remain in the party and sabotage from within.

    As a lifelong BJP supporter I wonder why I should vote for these people who have been demonizing Hindus, and BJP and Modi for ages.

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  27. When Modi himself said that "PM + all state CM's" makes the team, what was the need for Shivaraj Singh Chauhan to make that stupid statement, can't he say we are all solidly behind Narendra Modi? Even Arun Jaitley on NDTV says.. Narendra Modi is our PM candidate and it almost looks like he is going to become PM. Advani is sulking like an absolute moron.. all in all, while Narendra Modi is carrying himself with superb grace & dignity, rest of the tall leaders club is behaving like clowns.

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  28. Dont worry Ravi Narji, Yeh waqt Modiji ka hai, India ka hai. But, really sick of the infighting..Grow up guys..

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  29. Off-Topic: Didnt know where to share this little clip appropriately. Thought you might want to watch how CNN IBN changed the video the second time to edit the part where Kejriwal lets out a slip of tongue response.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG_326jvtxE

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  30. BJP supporters' only hope is that the voters are wiser than these "Tall leaders" and vote suitably.In spite of all these dramas, Modi's stock is going up.Majority of the voters have decided to give chance to Modi/BJP/NDA this time.These "tall leaders" should know what Modi did to GPP leaders in Gujarat.post June 2014 they should not complain.And even if they do, there won't be many to listen to them.

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  31. I too opposed both Muthalik and Sabir Ali, but I am not really sure how to react to all this really.
    These three things seems not so exclusively inter-linked I guess, although they do come together occasionally:
    1. The forever sulking D4.
    2. Rajnath Singh's dream of sneaking into 7 race-course road.
    3. Rogues joining BJP.

    I would like to give benefit of doubt regarding third point. No matter how much we dislike, but win-ability is one of the major factor. Although there are lows of Muthalik and Sabir Ali joining the party; but we also have high of people like MJ, Satpal Maharaj, Udit Raj etc joining them.
    Thus I wouldn't say for sure that these (Muthalik and Sabir Ali) were particularly done to sabotage Modi's march. Good that they revert those bad decisions quickly.

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  32. When the very intention of the old guard is to ensure a BJP victory without NM heading it, how can you expect them not to score self goals? They will continue their efforts despite your warnings. If you want to avoid self goals, keep a strong goal keeper at least till elections. I feel SM till now has played that role of a strong goal keeper.

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  33. Thank you, Mr. Ravinar for at least acknowledging that something is going wrong in BJP. We, the supporters and voters are deeply anguished at it.
    The Delhi Establishment is burning mid night oil to stop Modi by hook or by crook. And there is no shortage of crooks either inside or outside BJP.
    In the comments made on earlier of your articles, I had stated that distribution of tickets to wrong people at wrong places can affect its Mission 272+. What the people like Kiran kher got to do with Chandigarh?, What are credentials of Poonam Mahajan against Priya Dutt in Mumbai?, and so many such gaffes are just unexplainable.
    Least said is better about the oldies club of JS, LKA, MMJ, Lalji Tandon, Venkaiah Naidu,etc. They have well past their expiry dates. Modi should have put his foot down and should have send them to RajyaSabha.
    There are leaders in BJP with the "foot in mouth" syndrome, such as Parrikar of Goa, Gadkari in Maharashtra and many others. What is the point in antagonising an old ally like Shiv Sena in Maharashtra at this crucial time when Maharashtra is only state that may help resurrect dying Congress ? What's the use of MNS which is fielding candidates against NDA and then says we want Modi as PM? Why this duplicity ? People are not fools. They are watching everything neatly and making their opinion. Even a giant like Indira Gandhi was defeated when there was no media, no literacy amongst masses.
    BJP leadership is in over confidence zone and that only will bring their downfall. Remember every seat lost by BJP and won by Congress is a step towards destruction of India. It's NOW OR NEVER for BJP. Hope they get the message LOUD AND CLEAR.

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  34. I belong to MP and I will comment on Shivaraj singh Chauhan only. thankfully you talked about him. I have no doubt in saying that he belongs to 160 club for BJP. no star candidates in Madhya pradesh and and wrong allotment of seates. He wants to see BJP win, but not Modi as PM. the ground reality is that BJP is going to suffer heavily in madhya pradesh. local people want to see Modi as PM but they don't want to elect their local bjp leaders who have harassed them for years. Even I don't want to vote for my local bjp leader. But what to do? I will have to vote for him so that Modi can become PM and save the country from forign funded congis and fibrals.

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    1. But then narendra Modi is also head of election campaign , is he then not able to see thru all this ???

      I believe that BJP genuinely believes there is a Modi wave and that is the only strategy they have . They do not even that many leaders for 450 plus constituencies where they may have put up candidates . The BJP has put all its egg in Modi basket . So at this stage just blindly vote for bjp . Do not get distracted and do not allow others also to get waylaid /frustrated . I hope every Indian keeps the larger picture of India and its welfare in mind and votes only for bjp/nda .

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  35. India's eternal problem : our selfish short sighted traitors. The BJP has more enemies within as outside.

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  36. Well written Ravinar,
    This makes me remember the antics of Hindu Kings who blinded by their ego and over confidence lost of Islamic hordes who were less armed and had comparitively smaller armies. Not only Indian emperors (in and around 9-10 centuries) had bigger and better armies but also deep resources of Gold and man power.
    After suffering for 300 years of Violent islamic rule under slave dynasties there is a moment in history when a leader under shershah suri called Hemu (Hema chandra) drives back the mughals under Bairam khan and Akbar and holds delhi.
    The problem then begins, he is so enamoured with himself and driven by his perceived power that he ignores the enemy at the afghan border and hurries to anoint him as Indian emperor.
    Few weeks later, he personally enters the war (although not needed) and his casual approach leads to a lame soldier of the mughals hitting an arrow to his eye. He falls unconcious and the great war is lost, following yet more 250 years of slavery.
    This case seems to be the same, the smaller generals think (like shiv raj chauhan) that they are more eligible than the actual general and playing for defeat.

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    1. Yes, it was very unwise of Hemu to lead the war directly as a commander. He was a great warrior himself and probably could not reconcile to the fact that at the time of Panipat-2, he was no longer a general, but a king. When he was injured in the battle, his army became directionless at the loss of their top-most leader. Ultimately, what could have been a fairly easy victory (and with it, the end of Mughal era) ended in a rout of Hemu's army and with it, any hope of regaining the past glory of Hindus for the next 150 years (the rise of Marathas).

      Just goes to show how too much overconfidence and lack of back-up plans can convert easy victory into abject defeat and change the course of history of this vast nation.

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  37. To add to my previous point, almost all the great empires have sent their best soldiers and army, to other countries be it for knowledge or to conquer new kingdoms. India is a sole exception, where kings did not think beyond their borders. With the exception of perhaps cholas or perhaps legendary vikramaditya, there were few kings who even thought beyond their kingdom or worse their bedrooms.

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  38. Ravinar
    Centre right website provides useful info about how few leaders and hell bent on destroying the party with in. Unknown candidates have been given tickets in UP, haryana and other places. Somewhere given tickets to placate seniors and sabotage was supposed to be hatched by anant kumar in bringing pramod mutalik which made BJP lose face even if he was rejected within hours.
    As though it not enough of media pounding Yeddi as corrupt (although High court has struck down the case against him), the spokesperson of the BJP were pathetic in defending its decisions. In welcoming the support of PDP and closet islamists, BJP is again doing the mistake of appeasing sections of electorate who would in any case wont't vote for it.
    Finally, TDP in AP is an invaluable ally since not only it brings the "secular" impression for NDA but also perhaps the strongest ally even more than Shiv Sena if the friendship was to help properly. In 1999 both parties combinedly swept AP by winning 35 of the 42 seats, the old guard (the forward castes) in AP and especially in Telengana (whose president is a forward caste, but politically nobody) does not want the BJP to expand in AP since the expansion will be at the cost of forward caste leadership. Hence he along with his mates is ensuring that no alliance is built with TDP.
    Internal sabotage is hitting high in Bjp. we have to see what happens post 16 may.

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    1. hi vamsi

      the problem is two-fold : unfortunetly, some of the most senior leaders of BJP have already been compromised.
      &
      some of the worst speakers & spokespersons have been defending them for the past 10 years - 24x7 - non-stop.

      to be honest : except 'Modi' - i do not have hope with anybody.

      regards

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  39. It is extremely unfortunate that people like Advani, Joshi, Swaraj etc who sensing an opportunity to win, instead of supporting Mr. Modi are paying the Indan Crab mentality. On their own they cannot galvanise their own constituency. India will never forgive them

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  40. hi ravinar

    that's exactly - why i wrote a 'post' on BJP-not for BJP Bashing but out of sheer frustration and anger over the conduct of BJP since long.

    if it is 'OK' with you - i'm posting a link to that article here, you may read :

    they are not fools, they are stooools at : ashley1888.wordpress.com

    regards

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  41. I have a strong sense that Team 160 in BJP - Advani, Sushma, Shivraj, Joshi are already in contact with the Congress to see to it that even at any cost Modi should not become the PM. This confidence is showing in the Congress, now that they are calling for alignment of the secular front. They have done their ground work with the BJP. I do not see any one politician who is coming strongly in support of Modi except possibly Rajnath. Now a days even the RSS are busy issuing stupid statements. I always thought they were better grounded and sure footed.
    The situation takes my mind back to pre Mughal era when the Rajput kings aligned with the invaders against neighbours....BJP is doing the same. I think that unless Modi is able to do something spectacular, the self goal may have already been scored

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  42. I agree completely with all this about the 160 club and self destruction, etc. What I cant understand is this Sabir Ali guy, who was on every MSM channel for the past so many months (ever since JDU broke up from NDA), there was not a whimper of the terror links from any of the channels or any of the BJP guys as well.

    The moment he joins the BJP, all of a sudden, his terror links are exposed!

    So, if one remains in the JDU (which was once part of the NDA), then it is ok to have people with terror links as spokespersons, is it?

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  43. hi satosh gairola & all

    Satpal Maharaj joining BJP & MJ Akbar joining BJP - for God's sake - this is not a matter of joy - this is a matter of 'Concern' - this is what i call :-

    Infiltration in BJP.

    for your kind information : Amrita Rawat - state tourism and child welfare minister in Congress govt. in Uttrakhand - is an obedient 'Wife' of mr. satpal maharaj and she has 'Vowed' to continue with the great Congress govt. and party and even 'Mr. Harish Rawat' - chief minister, uttrakhand - has reposed absolute faith in her.

    and 'MJ Akbar' - well, all i can say is 'he was pet of gandhi family - he is a pet of gandhi family and will remain a pet a gandhi family.

    and mind you all - Infiltration is done strictly on 'Orders'.

    regards

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  44. What has happened to state units of BJP ? Are they not consulting Central leadership before getting dubious persons in ?.These SabirAli types may actually prove to be a great threat to the life of NAMO. I am reminded of a story where ihe tent ownwer allowed all sorts of animals to enter including a camel.You know what happens when the camel stands up in the tent.I sincerely hope good sense will prevail on BJP leaders .

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  45. Sir, in my humble opinion there are a couple of issues with the bjp. (A) zero coordination between the state and central units and (b) grievance redressal of the party members. It simply baffles me how a state unit can decide at the induction of grey characters like muthalik and sabir ali without the consent of the central leadership. And even if a mistake was made, going public on twtr isn't the way to voice your dissent. In a way there are a few things that bjp needs to learn from the congress as well.

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  46. On muthalik , I do have a different view. Whilst bjp reneged to prevent the issue from blowing up by mainstream media. I do not believe that it is right to compare pramod muthalik and sabir Ali in the same vein. A pramod muthalik's approach may not agree with many Hindu intellectuals, his concern is very much legitimate . As such,nothing much is left of traditional Hinduism , which is one of the reasons that many so called Hindus do not vote for bjp. What we have is westernized Hinduism more Christian in its form than Indian. Joint families are going extinct, so too Indian traditional wear, English is the more spoken language , kids do not even know to read write in mother tongue. The new generation Hindu kids are irresponsible , momentary , irreverent . So what is left of hindutwa ???? And then is pramod muthalik corrupt as like Sonia Gandhi, sharad pawar , p Chidambaram ?? If he has done wrong / broken any law - he would get treated accordingly by law . But then why throw him out of bjp succumbing to biased media ??? Ashok chavan has yet got a ticket from nanded and so has pawan bansal ( from chandigarh ) . And both may win . At the end of the day one more act of capitulating by bjp to a biased media threat . The bjp does not still know how to manage media .

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    1. I disagree Standards set for the Bjp to get votes are so high that one small thing here or there and people jump up and down ,say no vote to Bjp , but anti Bjp vote goes to congress and regional parties. Has the indian hindu voter ever applied the same standards to other parties, No. Bjp is struck with a vote group which is perenially complaining. This election many people want to vote NOTA

      How many people in India, the naive ones , understand the risk of not having a Modi government with full majority ? India needs Modi more than Modi needs India at this moment because of sins of congress

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    2. My point is why bjp allows itself to be cornered by media ??? A Sanjay jha and arvind kejriwal defend even the implausible with guiltless ease: and here bjp spokespersons score self goals. Why should one whip oneself by allowing biased media to set the agenda for oneself ??? In that sense nothing will be good enough for bjp as media will deliberately shift goalposts . Anyway it is too late in the day to change anything. Let us hope and pray that bjp gets 272 on its own. And Indians for once display some sensibility in unison. Life will go on.

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  47. @Ravinar, you are brave enough to blame someone in BJP if there is a problem but if if there is anything good happened, then that is because of Namo. The real issue is Namo is in a hurry to become PM and like you everybody is chanting Namo which resulted in including scamsters & congress defectors to BJP. AK says that whoever not in AAP is not honest, it's same in BJP whoever not following Namo is against the party. Do you think Namo is not aware before including all these people, Yeddiyurappa, SriRamalu & other scamsters from Congress? I have been voting for BJP for the last 18 years but this time i will abstain because BJP has lost its values.It has become personality driven party like Congress.

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    1. pls vote for Congress or AAP or any other regional Party , it will defintely help India

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    2. Which party is not personality driven?

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    3. In the Mahabharata war between Pandavas and Kauravas Krishna persuaded Pandavas to use all tricks many of which were unethical( killing Dronacharya,Karna and Duryodana and laying Bhishma on bed of arrows etc) all for establishing Dharma. Now this election is a fight between Dharma and Adharma. NAMO has to use every trick to defeat anti national
      politicians and Media crooks

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    4. You said Modi is in hurry to become PM. This the quote from Congress and you memorize it. Tell which leader is not in hurry to become PM. Is it Jayalalita, Mamta,Nitish, Mulayam, Mayawati OR big congress leader RAUL.More Advani,Sushma.How do you come that Modi is in hurry? There is no party in the world who is not involved in scam. You won't have UTOPIAN party OR UTOPIAN country any where in the world. Need to be realistic.

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  48. BJP has in its DNA to score self goals.
    1.Kalyansingh publicly challanged then PM Vajpai and had to be suspended from the party.
    2.Govindacharya's "Vajpayee is Mukhauta" remark
    3.Then Party President Venkaiyah Naidu's comments-PM Vajpayee is Vikash Purush and Advani is Loh Purush
    4.Congress registered FIR against then MP CM Uma Bharti(UB) for flag hosting. She resigned on moral grounds. THe FIR was withdrawn, but Uma Bharti lost her Chief ministership. Pramod mahajan commented that the CM will be replaced after the election, implying UB will be reinstated as CM. CM was replaced post election, but that was Shiraj Chauhan, not UB.
    5.UB dared Advani in live Press conference. She had to be expelled from BJP.
    6.Most state CM and Popular leaders had issues with Delhi BJP even then.
    7.Advani's Jinah moment.
    8.Jashwant singh's jinah moment. When expelled from BJP, refusal to vacate the post of chairman of NAC.
    9.When BJP came to power in Gujarat for the 1st time, there were two candidates for CM - Keshubhai and Shankarsinh Vaghela(SV). Advani messed up the matter by public announcement that upper house members(SV) will not be considered for CM. This humiliation finally resulted in BJP split in Gujarat.
    10. Bhairavsinh Shekhavat's open revolt against LKA for PM candidate declaration.
    11.On Ayodya verdict against MMJ, he resigned. This was obviously to put pressure on Advani, whose verdict was to be announced the next week. BJP had all along maintained that Ayodya was a Movement, hence no question of resignation.
    12.On Jain diary issue, then Delhi CM Madanlal Khuran(MK) resigned on moral grounds.when cleared, he wanted back the Delhi CM post, but was denied. Spent the rest of his life against BJP. BJP lost delhi in next election, and since then.

    there are many such instances where BJP has scored self goals and the Media has exploited the same.

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  49. If people of India deserve a PM like NaMo, they would see the tricks in all the comments by LKA or Shivaraj Chouhan or media crooks. The only thing that matters is if India wants to get her glory back, it must see the virtue in NaMo. Period.

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  50. IMO, all thèse happenings in thé bjp is bcoz of à massive class warfare taking place in the party. hope modi like alexander will not be weakened physiologically or drained mentally after this kurukshetra war!!!

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  51. Your observation is right.There are some people in BJP who thinks that if BJP alone get 200-220 seats then NaMo will be unanimously elected as NDA's PM. But if this seats are down to 160-180 then there will some lobbying from some of the old NDA allies who will say we will support you provided NaMo shouldn't be the PM. This is the ideal situation some the oldies of BJP fore-seeing.But will BJP isOK for that is what everybody is looking forward to.

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  52. “Raj Dharm ka palan kare”- “Mujhe Biswas hai ki Narendra Bhai ohi kar rahe hai”

    “Raj Dharm ka palan kare”- thousands of debate(!),millions-billions comments with maximum hatred, a human can bear, with a lie that Sri ABV asked Modi to do what a CM should, means, Modi failed to do what he should have. Anyone heard the ‘second line’ at that time on any kind of media from anyone? When you don’t want to defend someone for some reason, well,at least you people could have said that Sri ABV didn’t say what print & electronic media is showing. But no. those people have only one agenda. Stop Modi. Congress, MSM and all those tall(!) & short(!) leaders had information that this man has potential to destroy the extremely corrupt system they have created to fool people and loot.

    Dear Ravinar. I think you may remember, I commented here, that Modi can fight and win any battle politically but it will be interesting to watch how he handles the enemies within. So far they have tried everything they could to stop Modiji (including ‘sudden removal’). But ‘Khatra abhi tala nahin’. Another serious attempt before the last phase of election campaign is very much possible.

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  53. Dear Ravinar,

    Felt very emotional reading your article & also the comments. Some one also mentioned battle between Hemu & Moghuls. I feel very saddened that he lost the war due to overconfidence & risk taking. I feel what we are witnessing in BJP was inevitable considering the D4 gang in Delhi was not going to give up so easily although they know are losing it badly. The real reason behind NAMO's high campaign for past 6 months is evidently not just to connect with the masses but to also zeroing on possible candidates who will win & support him unconditionally. He is well aware of the insiders trickery & have handled the situation rather well till now. Now just 1 month left for the polling, we are witnessing the last ditch effort of the Delhi 4 gang to somehow sabotage the rise of NAMO wave. Some additional points I want to make are :
    1) I also agree with a comment here that the MSM is trying to show that NAMO wave is waning or loosing its sheen. But these issues are of little consequence to NAMO who has already closed all his possible loopholes.
    2) Winnable candidates are given preference only because its a do or die battle for India and sentimentality or over confidence is not going to help the cause,
    3) Alliance with TDP can be useful & I hope NAMO has discussed the finalities already with NCN. The MSM is although already declared the breakdown of the alliance talks,

    Lastly, I request everyone to vote for NAMO & not to crib about the actual candidate as long as he is going to support NAMO. Talk with the NDA candidate personally to cross check on this important fact.

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    1. Yes. Vote for bjp irrespective of who or what the candidate is ( even a donkey or monkey should be fine). It is vote for Namo. It is to strengthen India. It is a vote to decimate congress. It is a vote for someone trustworthy ( nano).

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  54. well timed & well deserved piece for BJP , I know this will reach many big guys in the party as well but only hope they take this & act fast. the BJP must understand their followers & support base are in a better shape & spirit than the leadership. thanks for the write up Ravinar

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  55. Hi Ravi,
    Very well written article. Just wanted to highlight few points.
    1) Shivraj chauhan is a bullshit leader. He is not fit to be CM. His oratory is poor, is less intellectual. He may have won consecutive elections but i think that's more because of BJP and RSS. His advani sympathy and back-door politics is baffling. He should be replaced with Uma Bharti as MP CM.
    2) Some leaders in the party like Sushma Swaraj feel being the opposition leader for 5 years is a guarantee for PMship if BJP comes to power. She has hidden agenda and is more dangerous than Advani.
    3) For Rajnath Singh, i think only time will tell whether he has PM aspirations. But certainly he is not a back stabber like the advani camp.
    4) And finally i think irrespective of all the ills within BJP, i will only vote for them because they have our saviour called NAMO.

    Regards.

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  56. Ravinar, Right on spot. I think some members of BJP are trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.If this happens and UPA3 comes to power, whatever work Shri.Narendra Modi did all these months will go in vain and people of India are going to curse BJP leaders for that.

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  57. Yes, BJP used to put self goals and lose the advantage it has gained. But trashing Pramod Mutalik is not correct as his demonising itself is a media creation to beat BJP. He has done a lot of good work at ground level for BJP and he has to be rewarded. But BJP did not support him and made him scapegoat at that time and hence supporting him has become an anomaly. And that's how BJP make enemies from within. They are too defensive and ultimately give in and thereby dash the hopes of everyone.

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  58. Related article on web:
    http://covertwires.com/2014/04/02/anti-bjp-malice-in-bjps-blunder-land/

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