Friday, September 14, 2012

Identity Part-1: MediaCrooks A Terrorist For Thukral



I have been frequently asked through email, on Twitter and through comments on this site if the MSM Journalists and Commie Fiberals read this blog. Answer: YES, they do. This blog does criticise MSM. Oh, hang on! Criticise is a light word. This site exposes, lampoons, ridicules and that offends the MSM. But do they get the message? Let’s find out.

In the first week of April 2012 India Social held a conference on ‘Social Media’ (SM). One of the keynote speakers was Shivnath Thukral. He was a Business anchor associated with NDTV for 15 years (NDTV? Surprised?). He made a wonderful speech along with great video clips during his presentation titled “The future of reputation” (Youtube 31 Mins). It’s only in some parts that this intelligent person goofs up and reveals his typical MSM low-calibre and lack of intricate knowledge about SM and goes into an ignorant rant. You see, Facts, Truth and Logic aren’t bosses at the mainstream media houses. Here’s an edited version of Thukral’s speech (2.58 mins):  

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I’m quite flattered MediaCrooks (MC) features in his presentation to an audience sprinkled with MSM & SM folks. He particularly focuses on the ‘No Entry logo for Corporate-media’ in the segment called “Nobody is spared”. That is nice. And then in the segment which Thukral calls: “Unidentifiable, Unapproachable, Inaccessible, No Redressal, Ineffective?” he states: “Today I don’t know who MediaCrooks is. And they go on attacking everyone… Do I have any sense of accountability from them? If a Print guy writes a negative story at least I know I can pick up the phone and at least try to redress his concerns”. Thukral then asks if these are “veiled terrorists” who attack reputations. Oops! I didn’t know MC terrorised the MSM folks. And reputations? Reputations are built by Facts, Truth and logic.Those can’t be destroyed without using lies and untruths and paid propaganda. Can’t blame reputations damaged by Radiagate, Cash4Votes, media in Coal-blocks on SM. The list of people whose reputations have been deliberately and wilfully destroyed by MSM is too long. Maybe Thukral’s call might wake up our media celebs on how many reputations they have destroyed with lies and propaganda. 

The Supreme Court recently slammed the TV media for its conduct during 26/11. SC even implied their conduct was "anti-national". Shoddy Journalism wasn't invented by SM. ET journalist arrested for extortion and blackmail. Another journo arrested in connection with murder. MSM journo arrested for terror plot. The biggest amount of damages of 100 crores awarded for defamation was against a news channel. Maybe Thukral will care to find out how much money was poured into MSM to tarnish certain “specific” reputations. But.. But.. these SM guys are terrorists. We'll see why.  

MediaCrooks attacks “everyone”? Haha! That’s as 'loose' and 'general' as you can get with facts. MC writes only about the news-media (It's called 'Focus'! Thukral should try it, it's really nice. Lack of focus has brought many businesses to ruin.. Er.. like NDTV, Vijay Mallya?). The site hardly covers entertainment, sports, spiritual or fashion media.Those are not toxic when compared to news media. Accountability? MSM is not accountable to anyone except their Pay-masters. But let’s put that aside. If anyone wanted to redress a negative post or inaccuracy in contents on this site there’s the option of comments. Then there is the ‘ContactMe’ link on the right margin of the page for mail or feedback. Then there’s another option of seeing my email ID by clicking on my profile and that’s another way of writing to me. Many people actually do (As the post ‘From My Inbox to Fiberals shows). But hey, fact-checking is not a gift with the MSM or with Thukral. And if you’re upset with a negative story in Print media you can pick up the phone and talk to someone? Surely, Thukral lives in a world of celebs who can do that. Not ordinary people. These are the lies that the MSM peddles and Thukral so eloquently presents. DISMISSED!

In the post ‘Democracy is a dangerous idea’ I had argued that crony capitalists do not like the idea of power going to the hands of ordinary people. Social Media does exactly that. It has put power in the hands of ordinary people. Naturally, MSM sees a threat in that. The corrupt cronies sense it. That’s why the MSM frequently argue on WHO the writer is rather than WHAT is written. If they had to debate something they should debate what’s written and not by who. Far from issues of identity or accessibility, it is this that hurts the MSM most.

Shivnath Thukral makes the same stupid mistake that most media crooks make. No fact-checking! He spews silly theories about being ‘unidentifiable and unapproachable’ without testing his theory. Before shooting off bogus theories it is a scientific requirement that they be tested. Which is the reason our MSM peddles lies so easily. Thukral peddles lies too. He has nothing to lose. And who make up most of his audience? Mostly the same people who are his colleagues from the MSM. Ideally, he should have used any of the provisions on this site that enables him to connect and see if he gets a response. He still has that choice. Most people who connect do get a response, especially if they are making some important points. When he does go around talking like Moses without testing his theories he proves he’s talking through his silly hat.

But hey, in Part-2 of this post, we will completely demolish Thukral’s and the MSM’s nonsense about identity, anonymity and accessibility too.


29 comments:

  1. excellent ! waiting for Part-2 :)
    I seriously want to know who you are and where you live.

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  2. MSM will be feeling guilty & may comspire to destroy this MEDIACROOKS Institution.This MEDIACROOKS site actually does strengthen our 4th pillar of Democracy by exposing MSM with indepth research.I do my service by only reading & gets to know the happenings around with different perspective & moreover common citizens like me knows about JOURNALISM

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  3. Mirror are not cracked the reflections surely are distorted & hideous. Yes MSM it's your reflection that you see in the mirror the SM holds up for you.

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  4. I am amazed at the fist comment - Sudhir who wants to know who you are are and where you live. Malaise of MSM spreading to the common folks ;) Does who or where really matter more thant "what" MC writes? Anyway, Thukral has lost it big time with the examples. That particular video has even more bloopers - but then as you rightly said focus is our strong point and focus of this post shall remain Thukral who is extremely economical with facts (and fact-finding).

    Let me swear with an experience, even if Thukral has been able to speak to anyone in print (about the negative story), it couldn't be about correct it, but to catch up on a few pints of beer. I have had a couple of rare instances where I got to speak to some "Honorables" in the media, who refused to apologize and correct their conceded errors. They offered me a few col-cms to write my version. Beat that! They stand by what they wrote even if in error.

    An ordinary me, am able to reach you by various means and wondering why Thukral has a "discomfort" on that point, unless he is beneath me ;)

    Super post. Salutes to that Anonymous guy whom Thukral cannot reach and gets discomforted with, but who has lot of uncomfortable "verified" facts ;)

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    1. Now...Now...Now, no need to blow a simple curiosity way out of proportion. He is not asking about ravinar so that he can get his swords out and duel. He was just curious. But apart from that agree with the rest.

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  5. Perfect response to this bogus fellow-another Diggi types shooting off.Really dread that most of us have been buying what these suit clad buffoons have been throwing at us in their polished way.And that includes me, till I started following some genuine people on Twitter.Thanks my dear twitter friend(s)!!

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  6. There are many media "celebrities" like Karan Thapar, Shekhar Gupta and Kumar Ketkar who don't have twitter accounts that will enable them to connect with us. So what they say on TV or write in print media cannot be challenged/verified by the common folks. They are happy to maintain the status quo that gives them a (false) sense of security. Shekhar Gupta can get away with writing the most bogus piece on earth about the arm rebel and still has the gumption to preach us every Saturday on IE. No doubt that social media scares such people and they think it is right for them to stay away from it.

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  7. Excellent Writeup..Please keep exposing these Crooks...My salute to you

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  8. Arnab's Times Now Was ordered to pay 100 crores to a retired judge on a defamation case.

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  9. Excellent,and a bit more than that. Unlike the first comment, I am not interested to know Who "MediaCrooks" is; where do he lives, and so on, rather I wouldn't want to know even if given a chance to. As sometimes when you know who is writing, you prejudge it, and the charm of surprise is lost. I like the posts very much, I discuss it and convey/share them to my friends, my family. I use the logic given by MediaCrooks, I search for very many more supportive facts/logic from my side. I can proudly say that my way of thinking has been changed a lot more after joining with the social media. And that's what I like. In the years of late nineteenth and early twentieth century, when people (great people) used to write addictive poems/stories/assays with a pen-name, and even though, those were the days of almost anarchy, press owners respected their right to remain incognito. YES, it is everyone's right to remain private and write whatever he feels. Social Media has indeed provided a power to common people to read, write, interact freely with each other. Why do the media goons forget the right of privacy and blah blah in this case. Do see the merit of what is written, introspect of what is said against you. Sorry for the big joke, though, but just pretend , if MSM finds that the MediaCrooks is none other than their adorable, chubby, healing-touch-monk, Amul Baby Shri Rahul Gandhi ji, what will they do. These writings will then become Gospels for them. They will hardbound it and distribute copies of the MC posts to every new journalist aspirant. Secondly they (MSM) know it that, the way are getting paid for their business, biases, lies and inceptions; Mediacrooks might also be getting paid for the blogs (you think of others the way you do)and that's what makes them desperate; a person with just a blog beats them hard and hits them where it hurts the most. KUDOS

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  10. May I request some good samaritans to start taking the screen shots of this wonderful blog, so that tomorrow if this is blocked, we need not have to loose the valuable information available here.

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    1. @Vinayak, @Ravinar - I (web developer) am planning to archive your blog posts, as well would like to have a list of few others blog also kinda of this, for that I am in process of creating a platform and soon that will be live.

      With due respect of blog owners if they permit.
      Thanks & regards.

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  11. i think these people have a pre conceived notion that majority of their viewers are fool and mindless. We just witnessed what happened to Congress in UP elections, when they adopted the same theory that majority of muslims are fools and they can win votes by making some bizarre sentimental statements which backfired and voters taught Cong a lesson that hey you better talk sense or will be doomed, this is 2012 not mandal commission era. Our MSM is also suffering from the same disease and Mediacrooks is the only cure,hey this is not 90s this is Social Media era so be carefull or will be doomed

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  12. Jab kisi ki fatna shuru ho jaati hai toh THUKRAL jaisi awaaz aane lagti hai

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  13. In one word awesome! The insecurities of the media mafia coming in open! What kind of moron would say blogger is not reachable for the other view with all the options you mentioned in The article available?
    Seriously why so much stress on the 'who'? What they want to achieve threaten? Or really cause some physical harm?

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  14. Did anyone notice...Tehelka is the only media site that has no option for readers to post their comments on the articles !!

    Anand

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  15. From "Inside Man":
    Det. Bill Mitchell: Hey Keith, let me see your shoe.
    Keith Frazier: What?
    Det. Bill Mitchell: Lemme see your shoe.
    Keith Frazier: Why?
    Det. Bill Mitchell: 'Cause I have never seen anyone put their foot that far up a guy's ass.


    Thukral is/was NDTV; what do you expect? Some stuff about CSR and TLC interspersed with remarks on anonymous SM write ups, all with visuals from US TV channels/ none from India.Dash/bang music with Thukral agitatedly walking back and forth on the stage.
    Contrived English.

    Looking forward to part 2 and the forthcoming debate.






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  16. people who r desperately to know u want to take u with them on corruption reporting,u have planted mole in their ass ,u r doing perfect job,we r not interested to know ur identity but only thing we enjoy ur sincere writing with no nonsense facts and figures,if they r really concerned abt u then they have huge platform twitter or facebook to counter

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  17. Even MSM has its own Diggy.
    More power and glory to you.

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  18. Hats off to you! I would ask my kids to read your blog rather than a stupid newspaper.

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  19. really good man! i've recently came across your blogs and seriously i'm hooked, though i don't agree with all of your blogs but they make you think about the issue and not spoon feed you like MSM and thats what important, to think about issues with actual facts and what facts you have and make our own conclusion not blindly believe whatever MSM is feeding us

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  20. These MSM guys are just another bunch of hot gas coming in nice expensive coveralls, suited and booted and with their eloquent English which they picked up in foreign universities, they try and sell crap. I have been watching the trend on TV since last 10 years and as I see, anyone who watches TV without looking at physical India will get a picture that India is a developed country, with flashing TV sets and Lakme India Fashion shows and the taam-zhaam. Such has been the divide and disconnect that MSM almost exists in another world. We can only hope that a patriotic Govt comes soon to root out this evil.

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  21. Excellent Excellent Excellent!!! Please keep up the fantastic work!!!

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  22. Great blog. Your posts are addictive. There is no obligation to reveal your identity. MSM folks play dirty and are adept at below the belt tactics. In the youtube link, if you look at the right, there is a video named "Shivnath Thukral, Award Winning Anchor On Indian Journalism_1.flv". I watched that and in that clip the media celebs in complete awe of themselves. By the conversation, I think it was around May 2010, probably just before Radia tapes hit the fan. Man what a dramatic fall in credibility since then.

    Krishna

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  23. SM has become a threat to all these sleaze bags who want to answer to no one, prefer to stay in those rarefied circles where money is made at the expense of the common man, where they interact with other sleaze bags and pay for the MSM to make or break someone's reputation... MC is doing a gr8 service, bringing to light the distortion of facts done by MSM and they cant handle it!!!

    Good for us common folks!!

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  24. Excellent hard-hitting post! Can't wait to read part 2. Thukral and other MSM crooks are goading MediaCrooks to reveal personal information for one reason only. They want to train their entire crooked machinery into silencing truth and free speech. Just as Barkha Dutt shamelessly used her power and money to make Chaitanya Kunte first retract his words and then disappear. She was allowed to scream her lungs out about room numbers of innocent and terrified victims hiding in the Taj on national television. What's her excuse for doing this? Stupidity? Surely a great brain like hers should have known that terrorists would be watching too.

    Stay strong MediaCrooks. Let these media crooks whine all they want.

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  25. If these MSM propagandists are getting insecure and terrorised because they are getting exposed with hard facts and solid analysis, I feel GOOD.
    BTW if these guys have GUTS and gumption they should knock on the door of courts for being 'TERRIFIED'. But hell 'many more skeletons tumble out from the proceedings in courts'

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  26. Brilliant! Just demolish these cronies and cohorts of the MSM Crooks!Talk of birds of the same feather flocking together!

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